The future of Premier League on TV.
 

An interesting article on the position with regards to televised football since Sky became involved:

https://www.football365.com/news/the...on-tv-part-one

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It’s hard to take seriously an article that advocates giving games away to the BBC and ITV.

Ratings get a huge emphasis throughout when they are largely irrelevant. There’s more football on than ever before so the viewing patterns have evolved and fans are more selective because of that choice.

A nod to Amazon and Facebook who can’t demonstrate the funding model for a return on investment.

I’d like to see the bubble burst for the cartel as much as the next guy, but while people are happy to pay through the nose for the games they do watch nothing much will change.

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TV pays a lot of money into football . . but most of it goes to the wrong places. I agree it needs to go *pop* or change significantly

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It’s sadly unlikely to go “pop” while Sky financials remain strong. It’s tried and tested, and whether there are other companies looking to enter the market (and I believe right now there are not) it’s a risk to Sky if they lose the major share of games. That’s worth a few billion to avoid in itself.

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In my view the future is still Sky and BT despite the unsubstantiated exaggerated protestations of some on here who think the future is very much different.

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The only way I’d see it likely to change significantly in the next round would be the league deciding to sell games themselves by subscription or on a PPV basis (or a hybrid). The problem is that’s a huge risk.

I think it’d pay off in the long run however Sky/BT money is cash in the bank with zero risks. Sky/BT also provide effectively free advertising for the league through much of it’s content. That wouldn’t be easy to replicate.

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The money being thrown around in the Premiership is obscene. It's popularity never made sense to me, foreign players, fans also with no connection to the cities they support, many never having actually been to a game. Too many interested parties so it won't change unless the punters stop subscribing. Fools and their money....
Support your local team whatever level it's at, chances are it cheaper than a Sky subscription and more entertaining. (and it'll get you out and away from the TV!)

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Things will never change in your world, Den. Until they do!:D

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Your thoughts on this are in the clear minority , enough said OB.;)

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Now now. It’s entirely credible that Netflix could sell their £8 package to every household in the country, which is roughly what they’d need to get the additional 15 675 000 subscribers just to cover the Premiership rights cost. ;)

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Except that there would have to be an additional charge to subscribe to football. It wouldn't be Netflix anyway, they are not interested.

Amazon and Disney are the most likely to enter the bidding next time I think.

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So even less credible business models than Netflix. I think we can put this one to bed.

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Don't be ridiculous. You have no evidence for that at all.

As you know, for example, a sports option will be one of three strands for the new Disney+ streaming service next year. What exactly would they have to do to fit in with your idea of an appropriate business model?

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In the USA.

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The evidence is in the most recent auction. Falling values and the only rights Amazon purchased didn’t sell at reserve price first time out.

I think anyone would objectively say that even Amazon know they don’t have a business model for Premiership rights.

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And not in the UK that is for sure.

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Disney are of course already in the US sports rights market as 80% owner of ESPN.

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Indeed and have been for a while owners of ESPN..

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The very last thing us armchair football fans want is more pay TV broadcasters getting football rights!We pay more than enough already. Let's keep it to just the two broadcasters please!

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l suspect that will still be the case for the foreseeable future.

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Aren't Amazon showing some Premier League games next season?

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2 batches of 10 matches as they picked up a not wanted cheap as chips package..

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He’s got you there :D

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Cancelled my free 30 days trial of Amazon Prime this morning but not do they not want you to leave! Give times I was asked if I was sure then they offered me another 30 day free trial! Needless to say I turned it down as I was only ever interested in the live Premier League games.

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The future is getting out of your armchair and going to see your local team. Better value and entertainment than the sterile manufactured Premiership fodder, with foreign owners, foreign players and supporters who have little connection to the cities they support. ( well it's my 'present' and 'future' anyway ;) )

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Lol I've got the free Prime for a month for Xmas (as usual), haven't touched any of the Premiership football. The couple of things I have watched are on the BBC soon anyway !

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You say that but its not that cheap seeing some of these non league clubs as remember the conference has more professional clubs in it now thus the wages are higher.

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DAZN set to enter UK market when the next lot of premier league rights are up for sale

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Any link for this Derek.

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It`s going to get to the point when there`l be that many different providers offering football we won`t know where to turn

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If the Beeb need to save some money, they should axe Match of the Day. It's the most boring league in the country.

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Hmmm there are many who can't afford the Pay TV channels so this is the only way they can access those highlights.

You are contradicting yourself there Mr K as the BBC's remit is to satisfy the many different strands of viewers and listeners who all want to watch something different don't you agree?.

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It`s not so much the program they should axe but the over paid ex footballer that presents it. Anyone could do his job for a fraction of the cost. And while we`re at it many other presenters like Graham Norton who must be the least funny guy on the television at present.

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Not got unlimited funds though Den, The highlights cost £211 million of licence payers money ! Would it be better spent elsewhere?

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Possibly true, but we don't know how much Sky/ITV celebs get.... So the Beeb might just be paying the going rate, but have to be open about it.

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Spent over 3 years and its not much more they paid for this contract then the previous one.

Their remit is to satisfy all strands of viewers and that includes sports viewers who cannot afford the Pay TV subscriptions and there are many of them.

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True but Sky can afford it but the bbc can`t. Also,your`e not forced to pay for sky to watch tv but you are forced to pay the bbc if you want to watch tv even if you never watch any bbc channel

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Nope.

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Sky customers might be interested to know that all Sky Sports channels are now being offered for £8 pm for 18 months:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...2#post36027292

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Not if you already have them.

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Whilst there's no live football, you could cancel if out of contract. I bet you get a good offer to stay, possibly at the time of cancelling.

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If you can actually contact them, and Ive tried today.

Ended up sending an email for now.

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l would imagine they are adopting a holding position until the emergency meetings this coming week.

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Someone I know said that Sky had put something on their website to say that the Coronavirus was causing them problems.

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Probably, but they can't stop people cancelling if they are out of contract.

Even those that are could argue that the service they signed up to has materially changed to such an extent that this amounts to a breach of contract.

When the UKTV channels dissappeared from Virgin Media, they tried to use their get out clause of 'All channels are subject to change', but some were successfully able to leave using this method.

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But we are talking generally about customers who are under contract Richard.

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As somebody who thinks football is utterly pointless am I allowed to gloat?

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You can say what you want heero.:p:

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Only if we can point out what a freak you are :D

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This is probably why you can't get through Paul:

https://www.sky.com/shop/covid19-upd...qEGUppgvPD_BwE

The trouble is, I believe that you can't cancel online. They'll want to speak to you to persuade you not to cancel. I've heard of horror stories where people have been trying to persuade Sky to cancel or downgrade and it's taken hours :shocked:

No idea if VM are the same.

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Sky are adopting a holding position but by the end of the week that position will not hold.

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It took me 15 minutes to get through, and another 15 to downgrade, part of that was deciding if I should make any other changes.
There was no horror, in fact it was all very good & professional.

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I used live chat and gave my notice to cancel no problem , I have since been given a deal I'm more than happy with via live chat after following a link from my Sky account all pain free.

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The Premier League is in risk of breaching its broadcast contract and stand to lose handsomely should the season be void.

https://www.digitalstudiome.com/broa...to-coronavirus