England/Scotland @ Euro 2008?
 

Who will be at Euro 2008?

England
Scotland
Both
or Noone?

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Heart says Scotland only. Head says neither.

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I seriously doubt either will get there but theres more chance of England being there than Scotland imo.

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Love to see a Scotland/England match in the cup, but I think neither will get through

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There is talk of a match at Wembly if both fail to make it ;)

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Think Scotland might get in but i'm not too sure about England making it :)

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Let's not, the goalposts are still new!

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Please, please, please, please don't let the jocks qualify.

Come on the world champions!!!

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South Africa?? :confused: Oh sorry, wrong sport... ;)

At least our qualification is in our own hands. And in a far tougher group, shouldn't be too long before we overtake the English in the world rankings as well. :D

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Somebody remind me - what results do we need for England to qualify???

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If Russia lose England need to draw against Croatia.

If Russia draw England need to beat Croatia...

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Woohoo, Go Israel :cleader:

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I wonder which part of which footballer we'll all be asked to kiss/pray for/meditate upon until the game on wednesday?

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I would love to see England play Scotland, either at Wembley or Hampden, as being English, l would love Scotland to show England how to play, the game tonight, with Italy was played with grit, passion for the shirt they wore, guts for getting stuck into the Italians, every player must have covered every inch of that grass, and the fans (like Englands fans) were fantastic, it is great shame that Scotland haven't made it, l just hope now that England, have that chance to qualify, they can play like Scotland, and not a bunch of high paid fairies, like they have done in the past, and sorry any England fans reading this, but l am mad on football, but l say it as it is.

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Scotland were unlucky, they deserved at least a draw tonight.

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Well, Israel beat Russia and Macedonia beat Croatia, so if England beat Croatia by 2 clear goals on Wednesday they win the group! ha ha Who'd have thought it a couple of days ago.

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Would a 0-0 score suffice for us to scrap through?

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Yes, if we lose though then Andorra have to beat Russia...

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I really feel for Scotland they played really well and were cruelly robbed............................................ ..................



Ha Ha only joking, better luck next time haggis munchers.

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I'll say it just the once - good luck England.

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:handshake

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:shocked:

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Good luck N.Ireland I hear they have a small chance of still being able to get there as well ;)

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I hope N. Ireland do go to Euro 2008.

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Don't worry it's the prescription painkillers I'm on - normal service to be resumed soon!

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Splitter! :D

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Good Luck to N. Ireland and England

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Well they've manage to cock it up so far.

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Paul - didn't you know England have a new sponsor?

HMRC.... :D

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Do you think it was something I said....?

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Actually would I be accused of being bitter, jealous etc if I said this is an awful English performance and the papers will be naming possible successors to McClaren tomorrow?

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Saying that, nice goal from former Swansea midfielder Lampard.

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Lol 9 games on loan, that has to be the weakest attempt to calim credit for a player I have ever seen, well done

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lets all hope it stays like this, or england score another, any of them and its good news,

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spoke to soon :(

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That's that idea knackered then.

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Tomrrows news

"Wanted England Manager?"

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Dead or Alive. Preferably Dead.

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Right, if this works you lot owe me one. Last time I did this England started scoring. Anyway here goes. Utter rubbish from England. Pathetic performance.

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Not working. The other lot have the ball.

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Why is it everytime we have a tournament or qualification for a tournament the press build the players up etc etc when the simple fact of the matter is that apart from two or three players we are no where near a world class team (nor even a european class team dare i say)

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Give it time - it took about 5 minutes earlier.

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84:27 on the clock - time isn't exactly what we've got huge amounts of, as the ball swings across the English penalty area.

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It's not looking very likely now, 5 minutes left.

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Once a Spurs Muppet, always a Spurs Muppet, Darren. Agbonlahor would have buried that.

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Ah well Heroes is on in a bit - let me know how it ends.

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Erm, Heroes was on at 9pm ?

On BBC3 its 10pm, plenty of time to watch the end of the match ....

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The problem is that there are far to many foreign player in the premiership, thus not giving a chance for those players who are good to get through and play at the top level.

We need to restrict the number of foreign players a team can use in a match.

I believe Lampard said words to this effect.

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Jose Mourinho possible England manager??

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How long before Mclaren leaves the post of England manager?

By the morning?

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Let me be the first to congratulate you on your glorious failure. Not even Scotland could screw up that badly.

Nae luck!

LOL!!!!!

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It was Ferguson.

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Wales were playing Germany tonight (you knew that right? ;)) and that's been on. Heroes therefore started 10 minutes ago. Saw it last week anyway.

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Thanks for that.

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That great football sage.

Too many foreign players - rubbish. Trouble is, we're not producing enough good managers, when was the last Englishman to win the league* (Ferguson, Dalglish, Wenger, Mourinho since him). McClaren got in on the back of, what, a League Cup win at Boro. Gosh. I take my hat off, reverently.

If we give up and rely on artificial quotas that reduce the competitiveness and excitement of the Premier League to try and get more clodhopping Row Z sloggers into the national side, we deserve all we get. Anyway, I remember England being rubbish back when a foreign player was as rare a sight as a half time quiche. We've usually been rubbish, but occasionally just competent enough to get everyone's hopes up.

* Howard Wilkinson, of course. From a different era completely.

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Mclaren, Mclaren, Mclaren!!!

BTW - ISnt Hansen doing a great job commentating tonight on the BEEB.

Im amazed he can keep a straight face for so long.

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World class players in the England squad

Rooney
Gerrard

erm.............

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About fifteen years, by my watch. I don't think he's capable of facial expression.

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Erm what? Most World Cup winning sides only have 2 or 3 world class players, Owens record puts him right up there as well imo

The point about school football is more to do with technique, it needs to be taught early and they were head and shoulders above us, waiting until they are teenagers is to late after wasting their youth playing competitive football from the age of 6

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shouldnt laugh really but omg England wtf have you done.

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There's a lot of pessimists on this forum, either that or Russ has fixed it so he voted multiple times. :p:

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Can a mod pls pls turn the swear filter off, I neeeeed to swear :bigcry:

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So does Gary Lineker's. Unfortunately, neither of them is in a fit condition to pull on an England shirt - you can't build a team around crocks or the elderly.

Bring on the youth, get the decent players who've grown up, er, playing with those nasty foreigners at Arsenal (Bentley, Muamba, Walcott) or Villa (Agbonlahor, Young) etc. in. Out with the Nevilles, James, Campbell, Beckham and anyone else who'll be 31 or over come 2010 (which includes Ferdinand, so that'll be sayonara to the Bash Street Kid as well, he can take his urine sample bottle and eff off).

Worryingly, there's Gerrard, Terry and Ashley Cole who'll be 30 then, and they'll have to be the backbone of the side. Rooney, assuming the sod has learnt to stay out of the ref's face by then, had better be in there. Crouch will just about be in his prime and has the knack, his goal tonight was excellently taken. Worth his weight in cheese straws (about five stone, by the look of the lanky streak).

So that leaves about six good young team players to find, a right back, centre back (Richards/Lescott perhaps), centre midfield (Barry please, plus a bit of backup), winger who can cross it (not bloody Downing for heaven's sake, and Wright-Phillips is yet to convince me completely) and a nippy striker (Agbonlahor or Walcott will do nicely).

Oh, and the small matter of a goalkeeper - someone will be praying Foster comes good, I reckon.

My team, then:

Mystery Keeper; A Cole, Terry, Richards, A Right-Back; A Winger; Barry, Gerrard; A. Nother-Winger; Rooney; Crouch

Bench: ?, Lescott, Bentley, Walcott, Agbonlahor

Manager - someone who doesn't ditch 4-4-2 in a vital game and play people out of position.

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Robert Green should have been given a chance in goal ahead of Carson imo and you could add Mark Noble and Michael Johnson to the squad as well imo

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:drool::drool:

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Yes, Noble looks like a decent prospect. There's also James Milner making a name for himself in the U-21s, and he knows where the goal is to boot. Steven Taylor, despite also playing for an abject Newcastle side, is also doing well.

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You can cross Gerrard off of the list, to over rated by far :redcard:

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Coming from an Arsenal fan? Never saw that one coming. Nothing to do with the fact it might put a dent in your current squad then.

Give any "good" managers rubbish players and you'll still get a rubbish result.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:Euro 2012 any takers:D

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Spose you guys can now keep us company next summer....

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Take the foreigners out of the league and what do you have left, Championship standard football, can't see the world paying billions to watch that, still if it suits your bias to watch Jenas over Fabregas and Bent over Tevez.

Imo the real problem is school boy football, rather than being taught the basics well about technique and control they are taught to lump it up the field as quick as possible and given no outlet to express themselves, it needs to be radically overhauled and brought into line with a club like Ajax's where every player is comfortable on the ball and rotates position, from about the age of 6- 13

Do what's best for the game rather than headline grabbing quick fixes that'll wreck the 'best league in the world'

Not so, Hiddink got Russia through with the same group of players all their other recent managers have failed with and of course Sven got this group of English players to quarter finals regularly

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Home international tournament anyone?

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The problem is we have no back up strikers, players like Defoe, Bent and Walcott are all behind foreigners in their clubs. If they played week in week out for a club there wouldn't have been a problem playing them last night, but because they have hardly started a match between them you don't really want to start them in an important international. Even Crouch hasn't played that much for Liverpool this season, Rooney and maybe Owen when he manages to stay fit are the only strikers that England have that play week in week out for their club. I think thats the biggest problem.

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Going on England's performance last night they'd probably even fail to qualify for that! ;)

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Will I saw Owen played for WALES under 16's

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didnt last long... meeting started at 8.30 and Mac gets the sack at 9.45

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...ls/7100393.stm

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Defoe had 'issues' with his manager, Bent has been injured and isn't really good enough, Walcott is still really young and has been playing, what about Ashton, Johnson and Young, they are all English and first team regulars?

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Ashton - Been out for a year, not good enough at the moment because of that, one for the future.

Young - Not much experiance, one for the future.

Johnson - Not good enough in my opinion.

I actually think Bent will be good enough, when he was at Charlton he was excellent and when he has played for Spurs he's done well, if he actually starts playing first team football i think he will come good, the same for Walcott.

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Bertie Volks is looking for a Job...

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No, because we're crap - an embarrasment.

The jocks, taffs and spud munchers from both sides are quite capable of beating us and that would be more than poor Pierre could handle.

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Mourinho 'rules out' England post

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...ls/7107060.stm

Thats a bummer, the best choice of the names mentioned so far

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All the more reason then. Bring it on!!! :tu: ;)

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Michael Owen? I don't think so.

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I saw Mr. Owen play for Wales School boys.

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It was on Sky Sports in 1995/1996.

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Well, at about 14 he was at Lilleshall, the FA's school of excellence and was playing for the English Under 15s. I think he also played through the ranks until his senior debut in 98.

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Seems like the FA agree with you!

Home internationals are set to return to the fixture list as early as February 2008 but do not currently include England :shocked:

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Wales, Northern Ireland, the Republic and Scotland qualify automatically. England are playing off against Jersey, the Orkneys, the Isle of Man and the Red Lion Under-21s Girls Darts Team, and are, I'm glad to say, seeded second, so there's a fighting chance.