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beaker17 28-01-2024 20:30

All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
The latest Microsoft update KB5034441 is crap and repeatably fails with error code 0x80070643.
There is no solution outside of expanding the WinRE recovery partition - a Geeks job.
Microsoft have been inundated with complaints.
Microsoft have said that a fix will be issued in their second Tuesday in February update.
Meanwhile, ignore the failure.
All Windows 10,11 Home and Pro programs have WinRE included and enabled as default.

daveeb 28-01-2024 22:21

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beaker17 (Post 36169059)
The latest Microsoft update KB5034441 is crap and repeatably fails with error code 0x80070643.
There is no solution outside of expanding the WinRE recovery partition - a Geeks job.
Microsoft have been inundated with complaints.
Microsoft have said that a fix will be issued in their second Tuesday in February update.
Meanwhile, ignore the failure.
All Windows 10,11 Home and Pro programs have WinRE included and enabled as default.

I dislike MS updates with a passion. Fine if they want to "fix" things, but it should be optional. Even postponing the updates often doesn't work and they go ahead anyway. I usually know when one is about to happen because everything stops working properly until the update has gone ahead.

Paul 29-01-2024 01:28

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Not really an issue I have anymore, W7 only gets defender updates now. ;)

Dude111 29-01-2024 06:00

Ya I have heard people havingall kidns of issues over the years from forced updates......


Im surprised no one has figured out a way of blocking them!!

Jaymoss 29-01-2024 11:32

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36169064)
Ya I have heard people havingall kidns of issues over the years from forced updates......


Im surprised no one has figured out a way of blocking them!!

They have

---------- Post added at 11:32 ---------- Previous post was at 11:30 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaker17 (Post 36169059)
The latest Microsoft update KB5034441 is crap and repeatably fails with error code 0x80070643.
There is no solution outside of expanding the WinRE recovery partition - a Geeks job.
Microsoft have been inundated with complaints.
Microsoft have said that a fix will be issued in their second Tuesday in February update.
Meanwhile, ignore the failure.
All Windows 10,11 Home and Pro programs have WinRE included and enabled as default.

I am guessing they have pulled it as I have not been offered it
4204 is the newest I have installed and nothing left to do

pip08456 29-01-2024 20:26

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36169062)
Not really an issue I have anymore, W7 only gets defender updates now. ;)

Same here.;)

Jaymoss 29-01-2024 20:35

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36169062)
Not really an issue I have anymore, W7 only gets defender updates now. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36169127)
Same here.;)

Careful you will be going the way of Dude soon hahaha

Paul 30-01-2024 02:10

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
I might have agreed if W10 & W11 actually added some stunning, useful, "must have" features, but they just dont.

I have to use W10 on my work laptop, it adds nothing useful at all, it actually replaces a the UI with something less useful.

tweetiepooh 30-01-2024 09:39

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Shame Windows can't update as well as Linux does, quite often my updates don't need a reboot and if it does just one will do it. Occasionally an update requires a programme is restarted but even that isn't forced.

Jaymoss 30-01-2024 10:06

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36169142)
I might have agreed if W10 & W11 actually added some stunning, useful, "must have" features, but they just dont.

I have to use W10 on my work laptop, it adds nothing useful at all, it actually replaces a the UI with something less useful.

I know mate I was just pulling ya chain

beaker17 30-01-2024 10:48

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36169083)
They have[COLOR="Silver"]

I am guessing they have pulled it as I have not been offered it
4204 is the newest I have installed and nothing left to do

Its still being included in updates, get it every time I update, latest 30 January.

Jaymoss 30-01-2024 10:57

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
how very odd

beaker17 30-01-2024 11:23

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Almost every computer forum is discussing this update failure.
Solutions are proposed, but all require major surgery. OK for Geeks, but a disaster for ordinary users trying to exploit them.

This Microsoft abomination does not stop other updates from installing, it simply fails each time.
So my solution is to ignore its repeated efforts to install on my PC until Microsoft issues a fix on the second Tuesday in February.
I am quite sure that my the absence of this piece of garbage will not spell the death toll to my computer activities.

Itshim 01-02-2024 19:14

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by beaker17 (Post 36169165)
Almost every computer forum is discussing this update failure.
Solutions are proposed, but all require major surgery. OK for Geeks, but a disaster for ordinary users trying to exploit them.

This Microsoft abomination does not stop other updates from installing, it simply fails each time.
So my solution is to ignore its repeated efforts to install on my PC until Microsoft issues a fix on the second Tuesday in February.
I am quite sure that my the absence of this piece of garbage will not spell the death toll to my computer activities.

Mine does automatically, can't say I have noticed anything except very slow loading everything.

Dude111 05-02-2024 04:45

Quote:

Originally posted by Paul
I have to use W10 on my work laptop, it adds nothing useful at all, it actually replaces a the UI with something less useful.

Yup and they think its better!!


EDIT:

Its amazing how windows has gone from Win95 to Win11!!

Win95 was user friendly with games,etc....... Win11 is like its not even ones own computer!! (They cant do what they want on it)

[This message has been edited by Dude111 (edited 02-04-2024).]

SnoopZ 05-02-2024 09:57

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36169380)
Yup and they think its better!!


EDIT:

Its amazing how windows has gone from Win95 to Win11!!

Win95 was user friendly with games,etc....... Win11 is like its not even ones own computer!! (They cant do what they want on it)

[This message has been edited by Dude111 (edited 02-04-2024).]

Windows 7,10 and 11 are magnitudes better and more secure than Windows 95,98(SE) though...... Just saying.

Jaymoss 05-02-2024 11:23

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36169380)
Yup and they think its better!!


EDIT:

Its amazing how windows has gone from Win95 to Win11!!

Win95 was user friendly with games,etc....... Win11 is like its not even ones own computer!! (They cant do what they want on it)

[This message has been edited by Dude111 (edited 02-04-2024).]

Who can't?

Tell you something you can not even install steam on your PC let alone play anything other than an out dated flash game
You can not run modern applications.
I dread to think how long it would take you to edit a video.
I imagine you can not play most modern format videos
Your file size is restricted due to a FAT partition table
I could go on all day listing things you can not do on your PC that I can do on mine

Dude111 05-02-2024 15:21

I guess Jay it doesnt really matter since I dont do that stuff anyway Mate...

Is filesize restrixted by FAT?? -- How big??

I wanna try DLing one of a biugger size and see if I can??

Paul 05-02-2024 15:31

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
The max file size for FAT32 is 4GB.
Not generally an issue for most people, even now.

daveeb 05-02-2024 15:44

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dude111 (Post 36169380)
Yup and they think its better!!


EDIT:

Its amazing how windows has gone from Win95 to Win11!!

Win95 was user friendly with games,etc....... Win11 is like its not even ones own computer!! (They cant do what they want on it)

[This message has been edited by Dude111 (edited 02-04-2024).]

I agree with the second part of that sentence but definitely not the first, it was a complete nightmare getting it to run even commercially produced games on disc.

Jaymoss 05-02-2024 16:29

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36169400)
The max file size for FAT32 is 4GB.
Not generally an issue for most people, even now.

Not important but max file size is 4GB-1byte or exactly 4,294,967,295 bytes

I know it is pedantic but it is something that always interested me :)

It would make a difference for me. You could not even download or create windows 10 media on it

I can also add for Dude all the things I listed I can do he can not I can also do everything he can do by emulating windows 98 in virtual box or VMWare or DOSbox for that matter

heero_yuy 05-02-2024 17:48

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36169400)
The max file size for FAT32 is 4GB.
Not generally an issue for most people, even now.

My HD movie downloads often run to 25-30Gbyte. I can only transfer them across the home network as most external USB drives are FAT32

The media server is running XP SP3 (Serviio) but the 2TB HDD for these is NTFS.

peanut 05-02-2024 19:21

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36169416)
My HD movie downloads often run to 25-30Gbyte. I can only transfer them across the home network as most external USB drives are FAT32

Why not just format the external USB drives to NTFS?

pip08456 05-02-2024 20:54

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by peanut (Post 36169440)
Why not just format the external USB drives to NTFS?

That's too obvious peanut.

Paul 06-02-2024 02:14

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36169403)
I know it is pedantic ...

Yes, it is. :knock:

Quote:

Originally Posted by heero_yuy (Post 36169416)
My HD movie downloads often run to 25-30Gbyte.

As I said, not generally an issue for most people, you are an exception.

beaker17 06-02-2024 15:24

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Asking users to apply the complex process of enlarging the WinRE partition space to accommodate this KB503444 update, is preposterous and highly unprofessional by MS. I doubt if one user in every 1,000 know how to do this.

Take the easy way - use MS's own Show/Hide updates tool. After the tool has finished its searches it lists all the pending updates, just tick KB5034441 to hide and the problem is solved. Get the tool from -
https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

See Option 1 item 4 to download the MS show/Hide tool to your desktop - wushowhide.diagcab, then simply run it.
KB5034441 has to be listed on your pending updates of course.

Itshim 06-02-2024 18:56

Re: All Windows 10 and 11 Users - WinRE Late January Security Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36169304)
Mine does automatically, can't say I have noticed anything except very slow loading everything.

So what has it messed up on w 10:erm:


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