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OLD BOY 21-01-2023 19:57

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36144084)
Following channels need new EPG slots from Tuesday:
*Challenge

Following channels may move on Tuesday:
*E4 HD (on TiVo boxes) to channel 106.
*Pick
*Sky Replay
*5USA +1
*5STAR +1
*4Seven HD (on TiVo boxes) to channel 142.
*More4 +1
*Sky Witness +1
*Sky Crime +1
*Sky History HD
*Sky History +1
*Sky History 2 HD
*MTV 90s
*MTV 80s
*E4 +1 (Moving to Channel 144?)
*E4 Extra (To Channel 145?)
*Film4 HD (on TiVo boxes) to channel 428.
*Nick HD (on TiVo boxes) to channel 712.

Following channels may close on Tuesday:
*E4 SD
*MTV SD
*Comedy Central SD
*5ACTION SD
*Film4 SD
*Sky News SD
*Nickelodeon SD

Following channels will close on Tuesday - been confirmed:
*Sky Showcase
*Sky Witness
*Sky Max
*Sky Comedy
*Sky Crime
*Sky Sci-Fi
*Sky Arts
*More4
*Channel 5
*E!
*Sky Arts
*Sky Documentaries
*Sky Nature
*Sky Sports News
*Sky Sports Mix

All information on this post is right at time of posting.

What numbers are being allocated to the new FAST channels, MB?

Media Boy UK 21-01-2023 19:59

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36144116)
What numbers are being allocated to the new FAST channels, MB?

Seen no info yet.

TimeLord2018 21-01-2023 20:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Isn't it likely to 4 digit numbers ?

Mr K 21-01-2023 20:10

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36144111)
Has Sky actually got BT Sport Ultimate

Thought you always detested physical exercise/sport OB ? ;)

Quote:

You need to come to terms with the new century, Mr K. Have you not had your fill of the old stuff yet?
The new stuff isn't much good OB. Being in HD or UHD doesn't make the content any better.

My point about SD tvs is if they are working fine, why get rid? (just like anything else that works). On a small tv definition makes diddly squat difference.

epsilon 21-01-2023 20:50

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36144077)
Any tests yet for Pick HD and Sky Replay HD (Streaming on Sky Glass right now.) Plus Sky Kids Channel?

The last time I looked at the capacity map, which is just a graphical indication of slots available on each transport stream, there weren't any issues with adding extra HD channels. Of course, the addition of 3 extra UHD slots has filled up a lot of that space. Probably why the SD channel cull has been timed to coincide with this. My guess is that there will be a big housekeeping exercise after the removal, with some transport streams being opened up for new HD channels. It will be interesting to look at the capacity map after Tuesday's removals, or a week or so later when Virgin gets around to cleaning up any remnants of the SD channels (and after any info slates have been removed).

But, to answer your question, there are no visible tests at the moment for the channels you mentioned. However, it would be a good time for Virgin to start SD > HD conversions following Tuesday's changes. (Being a good time to start this doesn't necessarily mean it will happen).

Media Boy UK 21-01-2023 21:00

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
January 24th moves took me back to when the following happened: https://mediaboyukblog.blogspot.com/...-channels.html

Mr K 21-01-2023 21:05

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36144122)
January 24th moves took me back to when the following happened: https://mediaboyukblog.blogspot.com/...-channels.html

A memorable day MB, surely the biggest since VE day ? ;)

TimeLord2018 22-01-2023 10:35

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
It appears Sky vacated slots - 136-138 aren't getting reused from Tuesday but others are for some reason, unknown whether ITV1 SD will removed from 113.

epsilon 22-01-2023 11:11

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Okay, I'll repost what I said on DS as it will be difficult for you guys because of the graphics.


A list of HD channels changing slots is now available on the discovery bar.

EPG Service
106 E4 HD
110 Sky Witness HD
111 Sky Max HD
112 Sky Comedy HD
115 ITV2 HD
117 ITV3 HD
118 ITV4 HD
119 ITVBe HD
121 Sky Crime HD
122 Sky Sci-Fi HD
123 Sky Arts HD
135 Pick
139 Challenge
140 Sky Arts
143 4Seven HD
147 More4 HD
154 Comedy Central Extra
156 Sky Replay
160 E! HD
163 Sky Witness +1
164 Sky Crime +1
266 National Geographic HD
278 Sky Nature HD
415 TCM Movies HD
428 Film4 HD
704 Cartoon Network HD
712 Nick HD

It doesn't list HD services keeping their existing EPG slot, such as Sky Showcase HD and Sky Documentaries HD or full details of SD services being removed (hiding removals such as Channel 5 (SD)).

Although Sky's +1 channels have been promoted up the EPG, other broadcaster's +1 channels haven't, so there are gaps such as TCM HD on 415 but TCM +1 unchanged on 417, Film 4 HD on 428 and Film 4 +1 unchanged on 430. Maybe they forgot to change them, list them, or could these timeshift channels also be culled? It isn't clear.

Sky Arts (SD) seems to be staying and getting a new slot, which is odd. Also, Sky's vacated slots on 136 to 138 don't seem to have been reused but their vacated slots at 139, 156, 160, 163 and 165 lower down the EPG have been, which is also odd.

No indication of whether ITV1 (SD) will be removed.

Also, it is being promoted on the discovery bar as "sharper telly, easier to find" - yeah, not really sharper telly, the HD channels aren't new, changing EPG slot doesn't make them sharper. Easier to find, maybe unless you memorised the old slots. https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2023/01/1.png

They don't seem to have left a space to add Sky Atlantic HD... who knew? https://www.cableforum.uk/images/local/2023/01/2.png

Itshim 22-01-2023 12:04

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Stupid question , will HD programmes not work on a non HD TV ?

nialli 22-01-2023 12:21

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
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Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36144142)
Stupid question , will HD programmes not work on a non HD TV ?

HD channels display fine on non-HD TVs, and so does 4k programming on non-4k TVs

BenMcr 22-01-2023 12:24

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Itshim (Post 36144142)
Stupid question , will HD programmes not work on a non HD TV ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by nialli (Post 36144143)
HD channels display fine on non-HD TVs, and so does 4k programming on non-4k TVs

Also I'd expect most Virgin TV boxes are connected to HDTVs at least

Only the older TiVo boxes have SCART.

fox35 22-01-2023 12:29

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
Will changes happening to channels on Tuesday coincide with the awaited inclusion of the Pluto TV Channels into the new Fast EPG? as mentioned here...https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/paramount-...rgin-media-uk/

epsilon 22-01-2023 13:03

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
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Originally Posted by fox35 (Post 36144145)
Will changes happening to channels on Tuesday coincide with the awaited inclusion of the Pluto TV Channels into the new Fast EPG? as mentioned here...https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/paramount-...rgin-media-uk/

I hope not, there's more than enough scope for errors to made with the existing list of changes. Save it for another day.

cheekyangus 22-01-2023 13:23

Re: Coming Soon to Virgin TV (2023)
 
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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36144139)

Sky Arts (SD) seems to be staying and getting a new slot, which is odd. Also, Sky's vacated slots on 136 to 138 don't seem to have been reused but their vacated slots at 139, 156, 160, 163 and 165 lower down the EPG have been, which is also odd.

No indication of whether ITV1 (SD) will be removed.

Sky Arts SD is FTA on Freeview and Freesat so I'm not surprised it's sticking around for now.

In Scotland 113 has been empty since STV HD moved to 103. BBC3 has to be in Top 24 slots so I'm expecting it to take 113 in Scotland (and Wales maybe, depending on how their EPG lineup is).


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