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The future direction is almost beyond doubt - unless you have convincing evidence to the contrary, old chap. If that's the case, you've kept it remarkably close to your chest. |
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I think you will find that linear TV will be offered by way of streaming and on demand in future, Den. But don't fret, I am sure that this tectonic shift won't happen in the current decade! |
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Never again will I be forced into buying a bundle of channels to get access to the things I want, my viewing needs are supplied by Freeview and online services these days. Quote:
I wont deny BT offer a great streaming picture quality but its not as good as the HD picture I used to get through VM. I'm not sure what you're watching NBC Sports on but on my 48" TV even their 1080P streams are not as good as ESPN, Fox Sports or BBC Iplayers 720P streams let alone watching Sky Sports in HD. For what its worth here's how I'd rank the online services for sports viewing:- 1/ ESPN/BBC Iplayer, not a lot to choose between these two, about the closest available to broadcast HD. 2/ BT Sports/Fox2go, fractionally below the above but still very watchable 3/Eurosport Player/Now TV, pretty good but in the middle ground between SD and HD via traditional methods 4/NBC Sports, as #3 but slightly worse All that being said I appreciate I'm lucky to have a very dear friend in the US who lets me use their cable login to access the US services and would never complain about the quality on them and will take the slight drop in quality on the UK services I pay for to not have the ridiculously large bill I'd have with VM to get them. I'll venture into your grey area and say Real Debrid would be a must if I used Kodi for TV and movie watching but people should not be fooled by the headline resolution, quite often the HD variants on the grey area Kodi addons offer a pretty low bitrate and I'd liken them to the now defunct yify group encodes (if you use VM's broadband there's a way to get movies in Bluray quality and TV shows as good as they originally aired for free without resorting to risky torrents but that's not a conversation for an open forum like this) |
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the bt sports app on windows 10 is amazing quality but i only have 40inch 1080p samsung tv i guess if my tv was bigger i'd prob see a difference between streaming and linear tv broadcasts. You can get blu ray quality movies via BT too as i'd imagine would be same with any provider offering good speeds. I agree never risk torrents i've repaired many laptops/pcs because people used torrents and got stung with malware./viruses etc which is why i use a android tv box for kodi and addons i research into before installing aka look at ratings, peoples comments etc. I like you am lucky enough to know someone in the US who gave me a login to their tv provider for a small fee which is understandable $10p/m is peanuts really. |
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---------- Post added at 18:00 ---------- Previous post was at 17:55 ---------- Oh, and by way of full disclosure, I've been full of the cold this week, and when one of my kids was off school with it a few days ago, we binge-watched all eight episodes. :D We have finally taken a month's trial sub to Netflix as there was some stuff the kids wanted to see. It is definitely nice to have, but I'm finding that its main effect on me is to invite me to distract myself with TV at times when I'd otherwise just go and do something else. It's been fun but we'll be cancelling before they start charging us. We might take out an ad hoc month here or there in future though, if they release something good ... like another series of Lemony Snickett. |
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For Netflix and Amazon Prime I use a Fire TV Stick (cheapest way to get both in 1080P with DD+ sound), for most of my media consumption I use a Windows 10 based HTPC which acts as a PVR, server, download machine, Kodi device and BT Sports app player, for Now TV I use one of the newer smart boxes (this I lucked on an offer and thought it worth a try and it is head and shoulders above any other device I've tried for Sky Sports on the platform). I then have an Apple TV 4 as a backup for when the Kodi addons aren't working for the American channels (a reasonably common occurrence for most Kodi addons). The ATV 4 gives the same results for NBC as the expensive Windows PC, whilst perfectly watchable its picture is not as good as the other services I mentioned in my previous post. With regard to your comment about using an Android box for Kodi and researching ratings I hope you can forgive an old timer giving a little advice. I've been using Kodi since I first soldered an xecuter chip into my original xbox and ftp'd an amazing program then called then XBMP into it. In the near decade and a half since then I've always hailed it as the best example of how good a piece of software can be when its created as a labour of love rather than having any commercial interests. Unfortunately over the last 4 or 5 years many nefarious interests have tried to make money out of it. Whilst I'm out of touch with Android developments I'd say in its purest form Kodi is still best experienced on X86/64 hardware, and while I'd trust to install any addon from the official repository the 3rd party addon world has become the wild west, I personally wouldn't install any 3rd party addon I hadn't looked through its code, I'm not a coder but python is pretty easy to read through and understand what its doing and if the code has been encrypted so you can't read it never install that addon! While I'm on my high horse I'd also say to anyone reading this thread never ever buy a "fully loaded" Kodi box, what you are buying has been opened by someone who has installed software not installed at the factory, you might be lucky and they've just used a commonly available wizard to do it to make a fast buck or you might be unlucky and malware has compromised your whole network! Its a piece of P*** to install Kodi onto any compatible device without resorting to the "fully loaded" scamfest |
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It is indeed easy to get sucked into all that delicious content, but I deliberately steer away from the TV during the day and don't start watching until about 8.30pm at the earliest...although on a Friday and Saturday night, I don't retire until about 2 or 3 in the morning, unless I fall off the sofa first (hic!). Probably explains why I have such a backlog of programmes yet to see! |
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I'm pretty sure the future of the "TV channel" is an on-demand themed section of an EPG (like a set of numbered or searchable fixed youtube channels), themed by each broadcaster, with a choice of programme releases that become available over time (like the Grand Tour on Amazon) and with very few channels being actually "Live" except 24 Hour news channels and live sports events.
Ultra-HD content could be pre-downloaded and "released" for vieweing at the scheduled time if you've series-linked that content. There is also the possibility that any remaining linearly-scheduled TV content could be downloaded by the broadcaster to a server at the telephone exchange and the TV channel can be played out from there rather than keeping an open ongoing connection from a satellite feed for fibre. The content would be batch-downloaded over the internet according to a schedule and then played out "reassembled" from places local to the subscriber. Terrestrial would remain for a while containing HD and SD public broadcasters but without many channels since the extra frequencies will be used for mobile services. |
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I remember kodi too in it's xbmc days on xbox a great media software, still is today under the kodi name. I never use these wizards or builds i create my own build for my use only. |
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Now, this is an interesting development - Netflix setting itself up to run a premium channel. That should please those who have an antipathy to streaming!
At this stage, it appears a sensible move, given that the transition to streaming only is still a way off. This will enable Netflix not only to acquire new customers, but also to take advantage of advertising, the same way as Sky does on its premium channels. Although the Netflix CEO has contended that he does not consider advertising as appropriate for the on demand service, he won't get much resistance to the idea if he uses commercials to part fund a premium TV channel. http://tbivision.com/news/2017/01/ne...hannel/696371/ Netflix ‘repositioning as premium channel’ by Stewart Clarke January 10, 2017 Netflix2Netflix’s programming spend now matches that of the major premium channels and with geographical expansion largely complete, the US-based streaming service is repositioning itself as a premium TV offering, according to new research. Ampere Analysis suggests Netflix is refocusing its strategy. “Netflix’s growth has relied heavily on geographic expansion to date, but, with its global launch, that road has now run out,” said Daniel Gadher, an analyst at Ampere. “Increasingly, Netflix is re-engineering as a premium channel play and its content spend, as well as the refinement we are seeing in its content catalogue, reflect this.” This repositioning will see Netflix differentiate itself from Amazon, which is becoming more of a pay TV platform offering in some markets and also wants to bolster a wider retail business. The two main global OTT players will occupy different places in the market in the future, according to Ampere. “Netflix is clearly re-positioning as a premium channel in a strategy that differs considerably from that of Amazon,” Gadher said. “This duality of approaches will see the two operations increasingly carve out parallel but separate niches.” Netflix spent US$4.7 billion on programming last year and will shell out almost US$6 billion in 2017. It has upped its spend on originals and also drastically reduced the volume of library fare on its service. Its spend and focus on originals puts it on a par with the likes of Sky and international channel groups such as NBCUniversal. Amazon’s spends about US$2.7 billion on programming, less than its rival but at a similar level to Netflix at that point in its development. “Although Amazon’s level of SVOD content expenditure against revenue from its video service is currently high, it is at a similar level to Netflix’s at the same point in its video development,” Ampere noted. “Amazon is further able to use its retail business to supplement its content investment strategy, but has been positioning strategically as a platform content operation rather than a channel.” |
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Nice to see you are starting to realise that Linear TV is here to stay OB.;)
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In a couple of decades, the situation will look completely different. Remember the Sky Box Office channels? They seemed thoroughly modern in the early 2000s, but now, just about 15 years later, they are no more, and all because of streaming. |
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I'm not reading that the same as you Old Boy , I'm reading that as they see Netflix now positioning itself as a Premium channel in the sense of an HBO however On Demand rather than linear. Let's face it Netflix wants its service to be available on pay tv providers boxes , it's all ready available on Virgin and Youview and would love to be on Sky. In the USA it's struck a deal with Comcast and is available on Dish Network.
With must see Originals it appeals more to pay tv providers , more than it did when it was just merely a catalogue of older boxsets of shows. |
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