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Gone are the days of "Playing fair", the old saying, "playing by the rules", we are doing that & getting our arses kicked. Until someone comes up with a plan, a breathing insurgent is a danger. Even dead, he is still a threat. Why?, because he doesn't play by the rules.
Marines A,B & C could have turned away, only to see a grenade roll by. |
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If proven is based on him not moving and what you can actually see then no thanks. We should have done the right thing though. Patched him up and given him his AK back to kill a handful of troops before legging it because that's the law. |
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That's a good question. Is anyone actually bothered this guy shot an injured terrorist? Inserting a poll would be a decent idea.
The terrorists family are likely bothered but they'll be out throwing Pepsi can bombs next week. |
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That i think is the discussion to be had ,it is perfectly feasible for a wounded insurgent to have explosives on him to be detonated in the hospital while we are playing fair and patching him up .I think the notion of fair play in war with Afghan insurgents is quite ridiculous because i have no doubt that should we decide to start parachuting men in they would make no bones of shooting them before they land ,so should the rules of war apply when one side doesn't recognise them . |
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Some folks need to get real and understand that war is dirty and this sort of war even dirtier. Things like this certainly aren't nice but they are understandable. It isn't like killing someone with a knife through the heart because he's looked at someone else in an odd way, shown 'disrespect', belongs to a different gang or supports a different team. This is the most awful type of conflict in which one side is asked (and tries) to obey rules the other side not only has no intention of honouring but would be quite happy to exploit to cause more carnage. Under those circumstances I can understand how these things happen and believe the mitigating circumstances are significant. And no, that isn't the same as suggesting out troops should have carte blanche to murder anyone they like on a whim. If our troops are going to have to fight against people with no moral compass I think we need to accept that occasionally theirs might get skewed and take that into account when judging their actions. |
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We're fighting people that strap bombs to children to approach troops. Imagine how that feels to have to potentially gun down a child. We have to remove bombs from a suicide bomber who's either had a change of heart or has malfunctioning equipment. The whole war is a joke. |
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The only thing that makes this Marine guilty of murder is the Geneva Convention,and at the moment we are playing football where the opposing team is picking the ball up and running to the net |
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The difference is clear. It's not the same because quite clearly our troops don't go around routinely executing people for no reason. This was a rare event and the guy is being rightly punished. He's being judged and punished by standards which the other side don't give 2 hoots about and would not apply in the reverse direction. That's what makes our troops significantly better than them. Not perfect, not saints but better and IMHO some of the very best in the world.
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I made it quite clear at the start of this thread that what happened was wrong and the guy ought to be punished but I'm not going to accept anyone comparing our troops with terrorists. |
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