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The consensus is that the UK will suffer in the way that a man who bites his nose off to spite his face will. Thus, wer're not talking of imminent trade deals and tax cuts but more of increased prices and uncertainty. Even the St Petersburgh troll farms would be hard-placed to put a spin on things. Maybe they can sew discontent by pretending that the EU is at fault for agreeing stricter terms for the European Capital of Culture back in 2014 but that's the limit of what they can do as the material doesn't exist. Hint. There is a reason for this and it's because we're now entering Project Reality. Politicians promised us a land of milk and honey not Bombardier trade disputes and chlorinated chicken. |
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You will forgive me, or won’t, I don’t care which, if I refute your claims, we will be worse off. We can still have the same arrangements if we can amicably leave with a deal, we can still trade with the EU without paying a hefty membership fee but more importantly, we can make our own trade arrangements, on our own terms, with the rest of the world, which is a much bigger market. I have pointed out that Billionaire Sir James Dyson has stated the EU market is shrinking and is predicted to fall further in the next 5 years, while the Far East it is growing exponentially. |
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Funny how so many of those trying to overturn the Brexit result cite a hatred of far right politics when the very club they want us to be tethered to for eternity is fast moving in that direction led now by Germany and closely followed by France, Holland, Austria, Hungary, Poland... Not to worry though when you can just portray Farage and even the Tories as being extremist by way of reasoning... :spin:
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The Irish want the border assurances before the talks about trade because they have less leverage when the talks move on. The problem is:
1) The Irish and Northern Irish do not want a border in Ireland (and Vote Leave/Brexiters said there would not be). 2) The DUP and N.Irish Unionists generally do not want a border in the Irish Sea 3) We do not want there to be no border between us and an EU nation. |
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The media have reported on numerous occasions that the UK Government is trying to move talks on, but the EU want to see how much money they can screw out of us first. They seem oblivious to the fact that trade talks might actually enable us to make more concessions and come up with more solutions. How the hell they think we can deal with the Irish border issue until we know the outcome of the trade talks, I really don't know. The EU needs to stop playing games. Time to Tango, Barnier! |
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The government has already ruled out the prospect of either staying in the single market or the customs union. So either they're going to give a exemption to Ireland or they are not. Where your border starts is not a topic for a trade deal. ---------- Post added at 21:02 ---------- Previous post was at 20:57 ---------- Quote:
They wanted this, they're in charge, this is their responsbility. Suddenly Ireland is going to be a problem, as anyone would have guessed, and they're blaming everyone else. They've had a year and a half. Where is their answer? |
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Why are there so many problems/issues with Brexit? It's such a good well thought out way forward, that surely the mere thought of it will give our economy a massive boost? Yet the opposite seems to have happened, and the outlook for the UK is grim compared to other EU countries. Our growth rate is lower than that of the Eurozone, and the lowest in the G7.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/bu...-a8028891.html It's an utter mystery, as it's a brilliant idea, what can of possibly gone wrong?? .....:rolleyes:. |
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Last time I checked, Vote Leave was a campaign. It ceased to be a campaign after 23rd June 2016.
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