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Jaymoss 26-09-2021 12:42

Re: Windows 11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36094650)
My notification is an icon on the bottom right hand corner of the screen which states

And if I right click it and take the option "open Windows update", I get this screen


is that from the Beta Channel or from Windows 10?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36094595)
Ah if you do the windows insider program and get a beta version of windows 11 its not an official license?

Also what are the pros for android apps being on windows 11? I've heard about it but just wondering how ground breaking its going to be? Had twitter and whatsapp already on windows 10 etc

for me it will be to run things like TVTap, Smarterz and Cinema HD on my PC without a bloat/ad filled emulator. Plus other things like my Motorola security camera which never updated its web viewer after flash died

Hugh 26-09-2021 13:43

Re: Windows 11
 
From Windows 10

Jaymoss 26-09-2021 14:43

Re: Windows 11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36094664)
From Windows 10

you must be privileged :)

Corey N Georgie 26-09-2021 18:37

Re: Windows 11
 
I'm gonna be leaving this a few months to Iron out the bugs.

Take windows 10 even now it still has a few bugs that need to be ironed out.

nffc 27-09-2021 22:34

Re: Windows 11
 
The TPM thing is madness. I have a relatively recent Asrock board in my desktop but the TPM module wasn't enabled in the BIOS by default. Staggering logic really because if it's enabled and not being used it doesn't cause any issues but not everyone has the technical expertise to enable it.


Kinda emphasises why I'm more moving away from Windows to Macs these days, they just work better (and I get on with the OS better). If I could cram a mac with TBs of storage, I'd not use Windows again.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36094585)
It always used to be the rule in the IT community to not upgrade an OS and tbh I still think it is better to clean install and start again after you have the licence

It was up until about win7. Most Win10 upgrades are inherited W7 installs and to be honest most of them probably still function fine. W10 of course has installed a new OS on us twice a year. And most Linux distros allow an in-place upgrade as does MacOS.


It was always a Windows exception because MS couldn't ever handle the upgrade path without causing a performance nightmare. Something which they have thankfully sorted now.


Although considering it takes about 5 minutes to install a clean W10 from a USB3 drive to a fast SSD these days, it's perhaps still better...

Jaymoss 28-09-2021 00:01

Re: Windows 11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 36094916)
The TPM thing is madness. I have a relatively recent Asrock board in my desktop but the TPM module wasn't enabled in the BIOS by default. Staggering logic really because if it's enabled and not being used it doesn't cause any issues but not everyone has the technical expertise to enable it.


Kinda emphasises why I'm more moving away from Windows to Macs these days, they just work better (and I get on with the OS better). If I could cram a mac with TBs of storage, I'd not use Windows again.

---------- Post added at 22:34 ---------- Previous post was at 22:31 ----------


It was up until about win7. Most Win10 upgrades are inherited W7 installs and to be honest most of them probably still function fine. W10 of course has installed a new OS on us twice a year. And most Linux distros allow an in-place upgrade as does MacOS.


It was always a Windows exception because MS couldn't ever handle the upgrade path without causing a performance nightmare. Something which they have thankfully sorted now.


Although considering it takes about 5 minutes to install a clean W10 from a USB3 drive to a fast SSD these days, it's perhaps still better...

The main benefit in windows 10 installing is the sysprep it does automatically allowing hardware swapping including chipsets and even AMD to Intel swapping which used to just give you a BSOD

All the same rules apply though imo. Driver conflicts can still occur other software conflicts due to older software plus all the bloat you have accrued remains and some of that could even cause a conflict. Always better to clean install imo

I do keep an online catalogue of all the apps I regularly use( I do of course check for new versions it is just really for my old memory) and back up all my game saves and stuff like that so a clean install and set up is just an afternoons job where if done inefficiently can and often is for some a total night mare

Hugh 28-09-2021 10:17

Re: Windows 11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 36094916)
The TPM thing is madness. I have a relatively recent Asrock board in my desktop but the TPM module wasn't enabled in the BIOS by default. Staggering logic really because if it's enabled and not being used it doesn't cause any issues but not everyone has the technical expertise to enable it.


Kinda emphasises why I'm more moving away from Windows to Macs these days, they just work better (and I get on with the OS better). If I could cram a mac with TBs of storage, I'd not use Windows again.

---------- Post added at 22:34 ---------- Previous post was at 22:31 ----------


It was up until about win7. Most Win10 upgrades are inherited W7 installs and to be honest most of them probably still function fine. W10 of course has installed a new OS on us twice a year. And most Linux distros allow an in-place upgrade as does MacOS.


It was always a Windows exception because MS couldn't ever handle the upgrade path without causing a performance nightmare. Something which they have thankfully sorted now.


Although considering it takes about 5 minutes to install a clean W10 from a USB3 drive to a fast SSD these days, it's perhaps still better...

I had the same "opportunity" back in June when I was checking if my setup (Asrock Motherboard) was suitable/capable.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...S#post36084649

nashville 28-09-2021 12:26

Re: Windows 11
 
I am happy with Windows 10

Hugh 29-09-2021 17:07

Re: Windows 11
 
Upgraded this afternoon - took around 90 minutes, and so far, everything seems to be working (including battle.net and Call of Duty:Black Ops Cold War).

Mr K 29-09-2021 20:19

Re: Windows 11
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36095154)
Upgraded this afternoon - took around 90 minutes, and so far, everything seems to be working (including battle.net and Call of Duty:Black Ops Cold War).

Never mind kids games, does 'Cricket Captain 2021' work on W11? And is Solitaire and Battle Ships included? These are deal breakers ... ;)

Jaymoss 02-10-2021 23:19

Re: Windows 11
 
VBS is borking gaming by upto 28%

Apparently, it should not be enabled by default when upgrading but maybe from a clean install and will be on OEMs

Should be able to disable the offending component of VBS (HCVI) by disabling Core Isolation is settings

https://www.pcgamer.com/windows-11-p...g-performance/

alanbjames 03-10-2021 15:32

Re: Windows 11
 
I wonder how many people will get the upgrade on the release date.

Jaymoss 03-10-2021 15:44

Re: Windows 11
 
I only went back to 10 to upgrade back to 11 to get the proper licence so I will. It is inevitable some of my clients will have issues so the upgrade will hopefully result in a pay day for me hahahaha

admars 03-10-2021 16:39

Re: Windows 11
 
tried the checker on a few of my machines, 1 pc is core 2 duo using Win 10 insider - unsurprisingly that went "nah this is too old"

2 i5s probably about 6 years old also were too old.

my work laptop is a couple of years old, that passed, but i won't be putting it on that

alanbjames 03-10-2021 18:36

Re: Windows 11
 
Will u be able to force upgrade on the 5th by downloading a media creator like u could on windows 10?


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