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papa smurf 23-01-2021 16:16
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36067719)
COVID positive tests usually happen seven to fourteen days after exposure, and USA testing never got to where it needed to be, and they have no real tracing.

Deaths usually occur four to six weeks after the onset of symptoms, or around two months after initial exposure - how can the fact that the number of deaths are going to continue rising, because of people being infected up to now be Biden’s fault.

The number of deaths in the next two month or so are already written...
Have you any idea where the buck stops:nono:

Mick 23-01-2021 16:22
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36067719)
COVID positive tests usually happen seven to fourteen days after exposure, and USA testing never got to where it needed to be, and they have no real tracing.

Deaths usually occur four to six weeks after the onset of symptoms, or around two months after initial exposure - how can the fact that the number of deaths are going to continue rising, because of people being infected up to now be Biden’s fault.

The number of deaths in the next two month or so are already written...
What medical expertise are basing this on?

Because it’s utter rubbish. A person can develop symptoms within days of getting Covid-19. About 20% of those infected can deteriorate, often quite suddenly, developing a condition called acute respiratory distress syndrome (or ARDS). Oxygen levels in their blood plummet and they struggle ever harder to breathe. This does not take weeks at all.

nomadking 23-01-2021 16:57
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36067720)
His predecessor spent most of his time working on his golf handicap, watching TV and tweeting hate.
The Democrats and their supporters(especially in the media and Hollywood) have spent the past 4 years and more spreading and supporting hate and the overturning of a democratic decision. People who didn't support their cause were often sacked, forced to resign, or likely never to be hired again.

Mr K 23-01-2021 17:19
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
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Originally Posted by nomadking (Post 36067724)
The Democrats and their supporters(especially in the media and Hollywood) have spent the past 4 years and more spreading and supporting hate and the overturning of a democratic decision. People who didn't support their cause were often sacked, forced to resign, or likely never to be hired again.
And the events of the past few weeks weren't about trying to overturn a democratic decision?

The previous president never sacked anyone of course and welcomed a healthy debate !
https://www.statista.com/chart/15071...er-presidents/

Mick 23-01-2021 17:28
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
Stop talking about Trump FFS.

nomadking 23-01-2021 17:31
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36067725)
And the events of the past few weeks weren't about trying to overturn a democratic decision?

The previous president never sacked anyone of course and welcomed a healthy debate !
https://www.statista.com/chart/15071...er-presidents/
The actions of Democrats and their supporters over the past few years has meant that it could not truly be classed as a democratic decision. Their spreading of bile and hate, based upon falsehoods, swayed the result. Just look at the output of Film, TV, and celebs.

Mr K 23-01-2021 17:53
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
Fwiw I think Joe's doing a brilliant job. Several executive orders reversing the previous muppets crap, and most importantly rejoining the Paris climate accord.
A great first week, keep up the good work Joe ! :)

pip08456 23-01-2021 17:57
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36067685)
Utter bollocks to both of your links. Biden said he had no plan to change the trajectory when he said he had.

Senate impeachment. It’s unconstitutional. You show me in the Constitution where it says a private citizen can be impeached?
I think it would be best to leave it to those in the US more well versed on the constitution.

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“We differ from one another in our politics, and we also differ from one another on issues of constitutional interpretation,” wrote the signatories, which include the co-founder and other members of the conservative Federalist Society legal group. “But despite our differences, our carefully considered views of the law lead all of us to agree that the Constitution permits the impeachment, conviction, and disqualification of former officers, including presidents.”
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The Federalist Society for Law and Public Policy Studies, most frequently called the Federalist Society, is an organization of conservatives and libertarians that advocates for a textualist and originalist interpretation of the United States Constitution. It features a student division, a lawyers division, and a faculty division. The society currently has chapters at more than 200 United States law schools. The lawyers division comprises more than 70,000 practicing attorneys (organized as "lawyers chapters" and "practice groups" within the division) in ninety cities. The society is headquartered in Washington, D.C. Through speaking events, lectures, and other activities, it provides a forum for legal experts of opposing views to interact with members of the legal profession, the judiciary, and the legal academy. It is one of the United States's most influential legal organizations

Mick 23-01-2021 18:12
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36067735)
I think it would be best to leave it to those in the US more well versed on the constitution.
I have, he’s called Alan Dershowitz and he is a Constitutional expert who has argued it’s not Constitutional, I’m still waiting for someone to show me in the Constitution where it specifically states a private citizen can be impeached in a Senate Trial. I’ll give you a clue, it also doesn’t say former presidents.

That said, I think it would be best if we could stick to the topic.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36067734)
Fwiw I think Joe's doing a brilliant job. Several executive orders reversing the previous muppets crap, and most importantly rejoining the Paris climate accord.
A great first week, keep up the good work Joe ! :)
The Paris agreement isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. You’re very poor at researching stuff Mr K, you just like to gob off of a bit, with zero benefit of intellect.

Although analysts say the pact has helped make some progress toward its goal of preventing average global temperatures from increasing by 2°C above preindustrial levels, the effort is overshadowed by evidence that many countries just aren't living up to the promises they made in 2015.

Mr K 23-01-2021 18:22
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36067736)
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The Paris agreement isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. You’re very poor at researching stuff Mr K, you just like to gob off of a bit, with zero benefit of intellect.

Although analysts say the pact has helped make some progress toward its goal of preventing average global temperatures from increasing by 2°C above preindustrial levels, the effort is overshadowed by evidence that many countries just aren't living up to the promises they made in 2015.
Its a start, rather than ignoring the issue and hoping it will go away. Putting short term profit and political ambition first has been the policy of last 4 years. It's the biggest issue facing the US and the World, forget Covid thats a cakewalk in comparison. Covid will kill a fraction of our population, climate change could well do for us all.

Hugh 23-01-2021 19:58
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36067723)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh

COVID positive tests usually happen seven to fourteen days after exposure, and USA testing never got to where it needed to be, and they have no real tracing.

Deaths usually occur four to six weeks after the onset of symptoms, or around two months after initial exposure - how can the fact that the number of deaths are going to continue rising, because of people being infected up to now be Biden’s fault.

The number of deaths in the next two month or so are already written...
What medical expertise are basing this on?

Because it’s utter rubbish. A person can develop symptoms within days of getting Covid-19. About 20% of those infected can deteriorate, often quite suddenly, developing a condition called acute respiratory distress syndrome (or ARDS). Oxygen levels in their blood plummet and they struggle ever harder to breathe. This does not take weeks at all.
CDC...

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...-patients.html
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Incubation period
The incubation period for COVID-19 is thought to extend to 14 days, with a median time of 4-5 days from exposure to symptoms onset.(1-3) One study reported that 97.5% of people with COVID-19 who have symptoms will do so within 11.5 days of SARS-CoV-2 infection.
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the median time from their onset of illness to the time they experienced dyspnea was 5–8 days; the median time from onset of illness to acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) was 8–12 days
And the cases to death lag, from a statistician quoted in the Evening Standatd a couple of days ago.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/u...d-b900340.html
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Earlier the Standard reported that infection rates had started falling in every London borough, raising hopes that the capital’s devastating third wave had plateaued.

But Nigel Marriott, a fellow of the Royal Statistical Society, has warned of a five-week lag between case numbers and deaths, meaning the figures could get much worse before they get better.
https://twitter.com/marriottnigel/st...175188993?s=21

Mick 23-01-2021 21:01
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
The lag is nothing to do with how long it takes to kill people, the lag is gathering of data.

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BREAKING: U.S President Joe Biden holds first time phone call with UK Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, since taking office on Wed.

Boris just tweeted:

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Great to speak to President @JoeBiden this evening. I look forward to deepening the longstanding alliance between our two countries as we drive a green and sustainable recovery from COVID-19.

Pierre 23-01-2021 21:21
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36067719)
how can the fact that the number of deaths are going to continue rising, because of people being infected up to now be Biden’s fault
And herein lies the problem, not just the US but the U.K. and globally.

How can you lay “ fault” at anyone? Everyone has done what they think is right, laying fault and blame - at anyone ( unless you can prove gross negligence) is a mugs game.

Mick 24-01-2021 08:34
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
BREAKING: U.S Carrier Group led by USS Theodore Roosevelt enters South China Sea following Taiwan reporting of an incursion by China, who had sent a Bomber Plane and several Fighter Jets. Source: Reuters News Agency.

Damien 24-01-2021 09:32
Re: President Joe Biden’s first 100 days in office
 
Well, we're all dead.


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