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Damien 22-01-2022 08:09

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Well, you're more lenient towards politicians than I am I guess.

I do hold people who make the laws (and enforce them in terms of the police) to a higher standard than original citizens.

spiderplant 22-01-2022 08:51

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36110644)
I do hold people who make the laws (and enforce them in terms of the police) to a higher standard than original citizens.

As does the law
https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidanc...-public-office

Dave42 22-01-2022 18:48

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Tim Shipman
@ShippersUnbound
· 45m
EXCLUSIVE: Sue Gray has widened the scope of her inquiry to include claims of parties in Boris & Carrie Johnson’s Downing Street flat https://thetimes.co.uk/article/will-...road-7wlssszbj
https://twitter.com/ShippersUnbound/...49540075618312

Sephiroth 22-01-2022 18:52

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Oh joy of joys.

Carth 23-01-2022 13:17

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Maybe the wrong place, but . . . .


another one with an axe to grind almost 12 months after the 'incident' . . why wait all this time to complain?

Nusrat Ghani: Muslimness a reason for my sacking, says ex-minister

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60100525

Just bugger off back into the woodwork you've crawled from :mad:

Hugh 23-01-2022 14:05

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Because others have, in the last week, raised questions about the Whips behaviours?

And why didn’t she say more before? As explained in your link

Quote:

The Wealden MP is quoted as saying she dropped the matter after being told that if she "persisted" in asking about it she "would be ostracised and her career and reputation would be destroyed".

"I raised it several more times through official party channels.... I was extremely careful to follow procedure, and when the procedure ran out of road I had no choice but to get on with my career."

papa smurf 23-01-2022 17:42

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36110721)
Maybe the wrong place, but . . . .


another one with an axe to grind almost 12 months after the 'incident' . . why wait all this time to complain?

Nusrat Ghani: Muslimness a reason for my sacking, says ex-minister

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-60100525

Just bugger off back into the woodwork you've crawled from :mad:

Good fiction takes time to evolve.

Hugh 23-01-2022 18:01

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36110742)
Good fiction takes time to evolve.

Must be why the Sue Gray report was delayed…

Carth 23-01-2022 19:33

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36110725)
Because others have, in the last week, raised questions about the Whips behaviours?

And why didn’t she say more before? As explained in your link

Quote:

The Wealden MP is quoted as saying she dropped the matter after being told that if she "persisted" in asking about it she "would be ostracised and her career and reputation would be destroyed".

"I raised it several more times through official party channels.... I was extremely careful to follow procedure, and when the procedure ran out of road I had no choice but to get on with my career."
So she's saying she didn't report these (alleged) racist remarks to the media or police at that time because her politics career was more important . . . until it suddenly isn't?

Sorry, but people who complain years after an event don't get my sympathy . . . do it when it occurs, not when there's an opening to get the boot in.*

*applies to cricketers too

Chris 23-01-2022 19:35

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36110751)
So she's saying she didn't report these (alleged) racist remarks to the media or police at that time because her politics career was more important . . . until it suddenly isn't?

Sorry, but people who complain years after an event don't get my sympathy . . . do it when it occurs, not when there's an opening to get the boot in.*

*applies to cricketers too

I’m not sure there’s anything unusual or suspicious about preferring to use internal grievance procedures as far as possible, especially when your career advancement is at risk.

Damien 23-01-2022 19:38

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36110752)
I’m not sure there’s anything unusual or suspicious about preferring to use internal grievance procedures as far as possible, especially when your career advancement is at risk.

I guess the question is why she didn't avail herself of those internal procedures either. Although as found with Labour and the anti-semitism issue you would probably have to be pretty bloody stupid to trust the internal procedures of a political party.

mrmistoffelees 23-01-2022 19:46

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36110751)
So she's saying she didn't report these (alleged) racist remarks to the media or police at that time because her politics career was more important . . . until it suddenly isn't?

Sorry, but people who complain years after an event don't get my sympathy . . . do it when it occurs, not when there's an opening to get the boot in.*

*applies to cricketers too

What about those who faced mental, physical or sexual abuse as children ?

What about those who were physically and or sexually assaulted or raped whilst they were in an abusive relationship

Do they not deserve your sympathy if they report it later ?

Pretty disgusting comment Carth, you’re normally better than this.

Carth 23-01-2022 20:28

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees (Post 36110754)
What about those who faced mental, physical or sexual abuse as children ?

What about those who were physically and or sexually assaulted or raped whilst they were in an abusive relationship

Do they not deserve your sympathy if they report it later ?

Pretty disgusting comment Carth, you’re normally better than this.

Nah, had enough of all this crap making the news, and if you want to bring other things than 'political and/or racist' orientated stuff into the discussion you're welcome to throw slurs about with cute abandon . . . I aint listening :p:

1andrew1 23-01-2022 20:53

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
Whilst Johnson has been fond of asking us to wait for the Sue Gray report, it now transpires that we may not see it all, despite previous promises.
Quote:

Sue Gray report into Downing Street parties may not be published in full, Dominic Raab suggests

Dominic Raab has suggested that the highly anticipated Sue Gray report into parties at No 10 will not be published in full.

Although the Justice Secretary said there would be "full transparency" around the Gray report, he refused to confirm that it would be published in full.

Asked if the public will be permitted to see the report in totality, Mr Raab told the BBC's Sunday Morning programme: “The substances of the findings will be. There will be full transparency.”

When pressed on whether the report will be published in full, Mr Raab said: “I'm not quite sure the shape and form it will come, but the PM has been clear there will be full transparency around this so that people can see.”

Last week Tory MPs raised concerns that Ms Gray's report could be redacted, prompting calls for all senior figures referenced in the inquiry to be named. However, No 10 has previously insisted that the report will be published in full.
From The Telegraph via MSN
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknew...cid=uxbndlbing

Mad Max 23-01-2022 20:55

Re: All those No.10 lockdown parties
 
It's just one big snore-fest now.:sleep:


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