Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36115845)

TBH, those terms don't seem too onerous.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36115845)

TBH, those terms don't seem too onerous.

Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36115845)

TBH, those terms don't seem too onerous.

Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 36115850)

I wouldn't accept them.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36115828)

I don’t think it was a coincidence that U.S Secretary of State, Antony Blinken was in Moldova yesterday. Last week they, along with Georgia, officially applied to join the EU. Like Ukraine, there are pro-Russian factions in these countries, but the countries application to join the EU, gives a clear message to Putin, where their political allegiances align.

Any ex-Soviet State is a Putin target right now. But Moscow is failing in its main objectives in Ukraine, its losing the information war. You only have to look at the blackout of outside news getting in to Russia. Facebook and Twitter completely censored, if Russia was meant to be winning this, it’d be glad to show the worlds news in Russia, right now, that’s not happening because Russia is being frustrated at the fierce Ukraine resistance and its embarrassed.

For all intent and purposes, the West, NATO may not physically get involved in this. But every west spy agency has their hand in this helping Ukraine, advising them, and they’re winning by defeating Russian logistics, destroying their fuel tank vehicles with just Molotov cocktails. Russia is also losing experienced savvy fighter pilots, think I’ve seen 45 planes have been shot down since start of invasion.

Russian morale is very low. Their soldiers (conscripts) surrendering relatively easily, there is footage of them crying for their mothers. The Russians are poorly equipped, vs high Ukrainian fighters morale, using high tech military gear given to them from us and other European nations and the U.S, their soldiers fighting on home soil, with a population behind them. As long as we can keep supplying them with resources, they got this.

Putin has to now know this invasion was a grave error and his presidency is now in endgame. Yeah, who cares he’s been spitting feathers and coming out with all kinds of vitriol about sanctions are akin to declaration of war.

The risk is and some are saying, Putin could still well order a nuclear strike in Ukraine, albeit a smaller scale one, this would then ultimately initiate a massive world wide condemnation, probably forcing rest of us in to war, can any of us realistically see us still standing by while a murderous madman is dropping nukes over Ukraine?

We also need to keep an eye on what Russia is doing with the Ukrainian seized nuclear plant.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36115856)

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1646675783

So, the goal of Russia starting a war in Ukraine was to stop any war starting in Ukraine…

Sounds legit and trustworthy…

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36115859)

Germany rejects proposed European embargo on Russian oil imports.

Scholz said he's “preferring to focus on ‘sustainable’ pressure on Moscow that would not impose too heavy a burden on Germans.” - Kyiv Independent.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36115862)

A retired US Treasury Secretary on PM this evening described an oil embargo as the “last bullet” for use if all else fails, because it would be difficult and it would take time to arrange in any way remotely sustainable. But he believed it had to remain on the table because in the long run this is a fight Putin simply can’t be allowed to win.

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36115867)

From the official Russian Embassy in UK, Twitter account: Ambassador #Kelin: posted in last 30 minutes: “The Embassy is currently operating in a hostile environment. This has an impact on the logistics and the security of the diplomatic mission. We are receiving threats.”

Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36115849)

Are you joking?

So Ukraine just let’s Putin think he’s won, Putin can’t be seen to lose and he’s lost this war, sure he’s got a massive nuclear arsenal but that’s no good to him, when it involves Armageddon. So he’s now got to save face and he has to walk away with some kind of win to stay in power.