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Official confirmation that when COM7 closes the BBC will be moving CBeebies HD and BBC4 HD to PSB3, aka BBCB.
BBC News HD is closing on Freeview. They've clearly decided there's only enough space for one extra HD stream on that multiplex. https://www.bbc.co.uk/reception/work.../news/waw-com7 |
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Is it likely they will put BBC News HD back in if a stream becomes available? Of course it is, and RXTV may well think so too, but this isn't explicitly said. On the other thing, yes it's entirely possible they might fit in additional SD streams in. Some on Digital Spy are wondering if the opposite might happen, and the existing two SD channels on PSB3 will close. Personally I don't think they will close, there looks to me (not that I'm an expert) to be enough space for additional SD in addition to the extra HD stream. |
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You can often fit 3-4 SD channels into the space of one HD channel. That only two have been added into the vacated space on COM7 at short notice on a multiplex with a short life, so little demand, doesn't mean that's all that could've fitted in.
Given there's not enough space, apparently, for two new HD streams however, may mean 2 is indeed a more likely number if indeed more are added. Changing the subject, I wouldn't be surprised if BBC3 HD and BBC4 HD move channel number after BBC News HD closes on Freeview, though not necessarily immediately, the BBC may choose to leave an information slate for a few weeks after closure. |
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Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.
24 hours slots: -Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4 -Old RT slot on COM6 -Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux Part time slots: -Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only) -Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only) All information right as of June 2nd. All following Channels are set to close/or move to other streams on Freeview by July 2022. SD: *FreeSports *Quest Red+1 *Now 80s *More4+1 *PBS America+1 *That's TV (UK) *Forces TV *Together TV HD: *Quest HD So I think a following may happen (My own views): *NOW 80s may move to COM6 *Forces TV may move to COM4 *FreeSports may move to LTV Mux *Together TV will be moving to IPTV I think That's TV UK will stay on Freeview but only via IPTV (Line up is the same as That's TV Local anyway.) I think it safe to say the following is set to close on Freeview: Quest Red+1 More4+1 PBS America+1 That's TV (UK) Quest HD What’s changing in June on Freeview: TBC: BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux. TBC: CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux. TBC: Up to two SD Channels may launch on BBC B Mux. 30th: BBC News HD closes today on Freeview. 30th: COM7 will close today. All information is right as of June 2nd. |
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The Service IDs for BBC4 HD and CBeebies HD have appeared on BBCB/PSB3.
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On Digital Spy Forum Radiomike has today posted "Reminder also that SDN (Com4) is advertising a 24/7 stream available on Com 4 with a closing date for offers of Fri 17 June".
https://sdn.co.uk/assets/SDN-RFP.pdf |
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SDN are delighted to be able to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex (full national distribution). SDN are inviting offers for this capacity with immediate availability. The closing date for offers is 5pm, Friday 17 June. Please submit any offer to (been removed by Media Boy UK). More details on form and criteria are to be found in the RFP." https://sdn.co.uk/ |
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Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.
24 hours slots: -Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4 -Old RT slot on COM6 -Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux Part time slots: -Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only) -Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only) All information right as of June 2nd. All following Channels are set to close/or move to other streams on Freeview by July 2022. SD: *FreeSports *Quest Red+1 *Now 80s *More4+1 *PBS America+1 *That's TV (UK) *Forces TV *Together TV HD: *Quest HD *QVC HD *QVC Beauty HD So I think a following may happen (My own views): *NOW 80s may move to COM6 *Forces TV may move to COM4 *FreeSports may move to LTV Mux *Together TV will be moving to IPTV I think That's TV UK will stay on Freeview but only via IPTV (Line up is the same as That's TV Local anyway.) I think it safe to say the following is set to close on Freeview: Quest Red+1 More4+1 PBS America+1 That's TV (UK) Quest HD What’s changing in June on Freeview: By: 18th. SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex 22nd. CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux. 22nd. Up to two SD Channels may launch on BBC B Mux. Today: TBC: BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux. 30th: BBC News HD closes today on Freeview. 30th: COM7 will close today. All information is right as of June 12th. |
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I'm curious about your thinking MB, why do you think CBeebies HD is moving earlier/separately than its stream partner BBC4 HD?
Also, there haven't been any extra Service IDs added to PSB3/BBCB since the CBeebies HD/BBC4 HD ones, so if there are going to be new SD streams on PSB3/BBCB they aren't going to launch at the same time as the BBC changes. I'm not saying there won't be any extra SD streams on that mux to utilise unused space, just that they aren't imminent as there would likely be signs by now. |
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I was just thinking, what with E4's demographic being less into broadcast, maybe Channel 4 would sacrifice E4+1 on Freeview and keep the New 4Music on the platform. A music channel would surely be more worthwhile on Freeview than a timeshift. Just an idea. |
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Just had another thought. If E4+1 remains on DTT, maybe E4 Extra will swap with E4+1 on D3&4, leaving the +1 on COM5.
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Take that approach to its extreme and there will only be 1 channel left on UK television. :D Also, that's just replacing variety (albeit similar) with repeats. You can serve the same demographic with completely different content and get more viewers, that's why there are often many channels that service the same demographic run by the same broadcaster, because running various brands with different content for the same people usually gets more viewers than consolidating them into one channel or replacing with a timeshift channel. If for instance you closed Really and retained Quest Red, which are supposedly targeting the same demographic, the Really viewers aren't necessarily going to start watching Quest Red, they might hate Quest Red with a passion, and not watch even if some Really shows appear on Quest Red. It might even be that Quest Red viewers might watch less Quest Red if airtime gets taken by Really shows. Quest Red viewers may have different tastes to Really viewers despite being same demographic and virtually the same to outsiders. E4 back in the day was a very different channel to the old BBC3, and still is, despite being aimed at the same demographic. Discovery will likely much prefer two channels regularly getting 600,000 viewers each rather than a consolidated channel that gets 750,000 (numbers take from top of head to illustrate a point, there's no source BTW). Because consolidation doesn't result in 100% viewer retention. |
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First notification I've seen, outside of the BBC HD news, of a channel talking about COM7 closure.
PBS America +1 will, unsurprisingly, be closing rather than finding a new home on a free DTT broadcast stream. https://twitter.com/PBSAmerica/statu...49052926128129 |
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Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.
24 hours slots: -Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4 -Old RT slot on COM6 -Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux Part time slots: -Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only) -Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only) All information right as of June 2nd. All following Channels are set to close/or move to other streams on Freeview by July 2022. SD: *FreeSports *Quest Red+1 *Now 80s *More4+1 *That's TV (UK) *Forces TV *Together TV HD: *Quest HD *QVC HD *QVC Beauty HD So I think a following may happen (My own views): *NOW 80s may move to COM6 *Forces TV may move to COM4 *FreeSports may move to LTV Mux *Together TV will be moving to IPTV I think That's TV UK will stay on Freeview but only via IPTV (Line up is the same as That's TV Local anyway.) I think it safe to say the following is set to close on Freeview: Quest Red+1 More4+1 That's TV (UK) Quest HD What’s changing in June on Freeview: By: 18th. SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex 22nd. CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux. 22nd. BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux. 22nd. Up to two SD Channels may launch on BBC B Mux. June: 30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87. 30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107. 30th. COM7 will close today. All information is right as of June 14th. |
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Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.
24 hours slots: -Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4 -Old RT slot on COM6 -Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux Part time slots: -Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only) -Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only) All information right as of June 15th. All following Channels are set to close/or move to other streams on Freeview by July 2022. SD: *FreeSports *Quest Red+1 *Now 80s *More4+1 *That's TV (UK) *Together TV HD: *Quest HD *QVC HD *QVC Beauty HD I think That's TV UK will stay on Freeview but only via IPTV (Line up is the same as That's TV Local anyway.) What’s changing in June on Freeview: By: 18th. SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex 22nd. CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux. 22nd. BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux. 22nd. Up to two SD Channels may launch on BBC B Mux. June: 30th. Horror Channel will become Horror Xtra on Freeview Channel 41* 30th. CBS Justice will become Horror Channel on Freeview Channel 69*. 30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87. 30th. Forces TV closes today on Freeview Channel 96. 30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107. 30th. COM7 will close today. *Channel numbers may change. All information is right as of June 15th. |
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Information from Mike (a516Digital). -QVC has confirmed its HD channels are leaving Freeview, but viewers can access high quality streams of all its channels through the red button on channel 16. -Together is licensed to launch a DTAS service - i.e. streamed channel. Again Thanks Mike. And RXTV home page says Quest HD will close on Freeview. I will do an new list update tomorrow after 4pm. |
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Media Boy UK views:
On the back of yesterday's news at Forces TV UK is set to close on June 30th I have been thinking that Talking Pictures may make a bid for Forces TV in a coming days to keep Forces TV on Sky, Freesat and Virgin with a later rebrand to Talking Entertainment that would keep Talking Pictures to broadcast Movies 24/7. New list will be posted later tonight. |
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Towny views:
You don’t need to preface your posts with headlines in bold. You aren’t a newspaper, you’re just somebody posting on an Internet forum, like the rest of us. ;) |
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Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.
24 hours slots: -Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4 -Old RT slot on COM6 -Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux Part time slots: -Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only) -Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only) All information right as of June 16th. All following Channels are set to close/or move to other streams on Freeview on June 30th. EPG > Name: 65. FreeSports 71. Quest Red +1 77. Now 80s 86. More4 +1 91. That's TV (UK) 92. That's Music I think That's TV UK will stay on Freeview but only via IPTV (Line up is the same as That's TV Local anyway.) What’s changing in June on Freeview: Soon: -BBC B Mux has room to add up to two SD Channels. -SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex. -Together TV to carry on broadcasting on Freeview but as a DTAS service - i.e. streamed channel. June: 30th. COM7 will close today. 30th. Horror Channel will become Horror Xtra on Freeview Channel 41* 30th. CBS Justice will become Horror Channel on Freeview Channel 69*. 30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87. 30th. Forces TV closes today on Freeview Channel 96. 30th. BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 106. 30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107. 30th. QVC HD will close today on Freeview Channel 111. 30th. QVC Beauty HD will close today on Freeview Channel 112. 30th. Quest HD will close today on Freeview Channel 114. 30th. CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 205. ^Freeview viewers can access high quality streams of all its channels through the red button on Freeview Channel 16. *Channel numbers may change. All information is right as of June 16th. |
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PBS America "In talks" with Freeview over it Freeview broadcasting hours.
A) Move to a 24 hour slot. B) Having 11pm to 1pm on IPTV. https://twitter.com/MediaBoyUK/statu...55893113475073 |
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Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.
24 hours slots: -Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4 -Old RT slot on COM6 -Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux Part time slots: -Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only) -Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only) All information right as of June 16th. All following Channels are set to close/or move to other streams on Freeview on June 30th. EPG > Name: 65. FreeSports 71. Quest Red +1 77. Now 80s 86. More4 +1 91. That's TV (UK) 92. That's Music I think That's TV UK will stay on Freeview but only via IPTV (Line up is the same as That's TV Local anyway.) What’s changing in June on Freeview: Soon: -BBC B Mux has room to add up to two SD Channels. -SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex. -Together TV to carry on broadcasting on Freeview but as a DTAS service - i.e. streamed channel. June: 29th. 4Music will become E4 Extra on Freeview Channel 31. 30th. Horror Channel will become HorrorXtra on Freeview Channel 41* 30th. CBS Reality will become Reality on Freeview Channel 67. 30th. CBS Drama will become RealityXtra on Freeview Channel 68. 30th. CBS Justice will become Legend on Freeview Channel 69*. 30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87. 30th. Forces TV closes today on Freeview Channel 96. 30th. BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 106. 30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107. 30th. QVC HD will close today on Freeview Channel 111. 30th. QVC Beauty HD will close today on Freeview Channel 112. 30th. Quest HD will close today on Freeview Channel 114. 30th. CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 205. 30th. COM7 will close today. ^Freeview viewers can access high quality streams of all its channels through the red button on Freeview Channel 16. *Channel numbers may change. All information is right as of June 18th. |
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Reports are coming in at Horror Xtra will broadcast from 5pm to 3am.
NOW 80s or POP* to timeshare with Horror Xtra on Freeview??? *If POP do timeshare that would make room for a 24 hour channel to launch on COM6. ---------- Post added at 17:49 ---------- Previous post was at 17:45 ---------- It not Timeshare with Horror Xtra I can see POP moving to LTV Mux or merge into POP Player also with Tiny Pop. If Pop time with Horror Xtra I think FreeSports will move to LTV Mux. |
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What makes you think POP will downgrade its coverage? It's one of their best performing channels, and part of that success is the wide distribution. POP Player is On-Demand for all the Pop channels, it's already a merging of them. How does POP vacating COM6, reducing it to 14 channels, have anything to do with do with a channel from another broadcaster moving to the Local Mux? Especially since there is already space for a channel there. Why don't we just pick any other channel on COM6 or randomly pick another channel on any other multiplex? Explain your thinking MB. Now80s is the best fit, from the so to be homeless channels, for any early timeshared slot, in my opinion. |
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Why did Narrative Capital Partners launch Pop Player on Freeview? I can Narrative Capital Partners looking to save money on a costs of Pop and Tiny Pop on Freeview. And with Horror Xtra hours being rumour as 5pm to 3am it owners can sell it 3am to 5pm to a other broadcaster I only listed NOW 80s due to COM 7 closing next week. Three 24 hours slots are free as of today. With five channels looking for new homes as far as I know as of June 30th. |
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Freesports is leaving Freeview.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/freesports-leaves-freeview ---------- Post added at 12:41 ---------- Previous post was at 12:37 ---------- Apparently That's TV (UK) is taking over its channel number (Ch 65). ---------- Post added at 12:49 ---------- Previous post was at 12:41 ---------- Some of the channels are apparently showing on-screen messages, I'll see which. According to RXTV other changes include: Quest Red +1 Together TV That's Music ...are all staying with unspecified multiplexes with increased coverage. Now 80s is staying but moves to Manchester mux. More4+1 is closing. As is the Craft Extra placeholder that's been in legal limbo. ---------- Post added at 12:51 ---------- Previous post was at 12:49 ---------- https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/two-days-o...ll-the-changes ---------- Post added at 13:04 ---------- Previous post was at 12:51 ---------- Most of the channels affected are showing messages on-screen, but not all. Looks like That's Music is renaming as Classic Hits. ---------- Post added at 13:14 ---------- Previous post was at 13:04 ---------- Changes all happening on the 29th. |
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Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.
24 hours slots: -Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4 -Old RT slot on COM6 -Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux Part time slots: -Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only) -Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only) Slots information right as of June 16th. What’s changing in June on Freeview: Soon: -BBC B Mux has room to add up to two SD Channels. -SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex. -Together TV to carry on broadcasting on Freeview but as a DTAS service - i.e. streamed channel. June: 29th. 4Music will become E4 Extra on Freeview Channel 31. 30th. Horror Channel will become Legend on Freeview Channel 41. 30th. Freesports closes on on Freeview Channel 65. 30th. CBS Reality will become Reality on Freeview Channel 67. 30th. CBS Drama will become RealityXtra in reduction to coverage on Freeview Channel 68. (Local Mux?) 30th. CBS Justice closes on on Freeview Channel 69. 30th. Quest Red +1 moves to a new mux but stays on Freeview Channel 71. 30th. NOW 80s move to Manchester Mux today on Freeview Channel 77. 30th. Together TV moves to a new mux but stays on Freeview Channel 83. 30th. More4 +1 closes on on Freeview Channel 86. 30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87. 30th. That's TV (UK) moves to a new mux but move from Freeview Channel 91 to Freeview Channel 65. 30th. That's TV Music will become Classic Hits and moves to a new mux but stays on Freeview Channel 92. 30th. Craft Extra will be removed from Freeview Channel 95. 30th. Forces TV closes today on Freeview Channel 96. 30th. BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 106. 30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107. 30th. QVC HD close today on Freeview Channel 111. 30th. QVC Beauty HD close today on Freeview Channel 112. 30th. Quest HD close today on Freeview Channel 114. 30th. CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 205. 30th. COM7 will close today. ^Freeview viewers can access high quality streams of all its channels through the red button on Freeview Channel 16. All information is right as of June 23rd. |
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Official Freeview page regards upcoming changes of 29th and 30th June.
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UPDATE: CBS Reality will NOT be rebrand from June 30th.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/cbs-channe...mp-end-of-june ---------- Post added at 20:12 ---------- Previous post was at 18:52 ---------- I am still in shock that "That's TV" can buy two UK Wide slots on COM6 from June 30th. But -Sky only got That's TV UK. -Virgin only got That's TV Local in some areas. ---------- Post added at 21:49 ---------- Previous post was at 20:12 ---------- RXTV says Together TV will move from COM7 to COM6. https://rxtvinfo.com/freeview-updates |
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PBS America is gaining an extra hour on Freeview from 1st July. Now until midnight.
Source: @afzok on Twitter alerted RXTV to this news about PBS America Freeview hours change. https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/pbs-americ...ht-on-freeview |
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The following MAY happen from September 22nd:
69. ITV4 +1 - Moves from Channel 89 81. Classic Hits - Moves from Channel 91 86. Country Music Entertainment - Moves from Channel 88 87 TV Warehouse - Moves from Channel 90 88. On Demand 365 - Moves from Channel 97 ---------- Post added at 15:09 ---------- Previous post was at 15:07 ---------- Quote:
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Together TV moving to COM5 and will broadcast from 3am to 7am https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/together-t...-hbbtv-service ---------- Post added at 15:27 ---------- Previous post was at 15:13 ---------- Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused. 24 hours slots: -Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4 -Old RT slot on COM6 -Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux Part time slots: -Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 (3am to 7am only) -Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only) Slots information right as of June 16th. What’s changing in June on Freeview: Soon: -BBC B Mux has room to add up to two SD Channels. -SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex. -Together TV to carry on broadcasting on Freeview but as a DTAS service - i.e. streamed channel. June: 29th. 4Music will become E4 Extra on Freeview Channel 31. 29th. Quest Red +1 moves to a new mux but stays on Freeview Channel 71. 29th. Together TV moves to COM 5 broadcasting from 3am to 7am but stays on Freeview Channel 83 (24 hours via Red Button on some TVs). 29th. That's TV (UK) moves to a new mux but stays on Freeview Channel 92. 29th. Craft Extra removed from Freeview Channel 95. 29th. BBC FOUR HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 106. 29th. CBeebies HD will move to BBC B Mux - Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching on Freeview Channel 205. 30th. Horror Channel will become Legend on Freeview Channel 41. 30th. Freesports closes on on Freeview Channel 65. 30th. CBS Drama will become RealityXtra in reduction to coverage on Freeview Channel 68. 30th. CBS Justice closes on on Freeview Channel 69. 30th. NOW 80s move to Manchester Mux today on Freeview Channel 77. 30th. More4 +1 closes on on Freeview Channel 86. 30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87. 30th. That's TV (UK) moves from Freeview Channel 91 to Freeview Channel 65. 30th. That's TV Music will become Classic Hits and moves to a new mux and move from Freeview Channel 92 to Freeview Channel 91. 30th. Forces TV closes today on Freeview Channel 96. 30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107. 30th. QVC HD will close today on Freeview Channel 111. 30th. QVC Beauty HD will close today on Freeview Channel 112. 30th. Quest HD will close today on Freeview Channel 114. 30th. A 24 hour slot on COM4 or COM6 will still be not in use today on Freeview. 30th. COM7 will close today. ^Freeview viewers can access high quality streams of all its channels through the red button on Freeview Channel 16. All information is right as of June 28th. |
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I have today work out that a 24 hour slot will still be up for grabs on COM6 after all a changes coming to Freeview by July 1st.
Here is what I have work out today in full: 29th. Craft Extra or RT old slots > Quest Red +1 29th. Together TV moves to Smithsonian Channel slot on COM5 and broadcasting from 3am to 7am (24 hours via Red Button on some TVs). 29th. Craft Extra or RT old slots > That's TV (UK) 30th. Horror Channel > Legend 30th. CBS Drama > RealityXtra 30th. Ideal Extra old slot > RealityXtra 30th. CBS Drama old slot > SLOT will not be in use. (Unless PBS is using slot to broadcast from 11pm to Midnight every night) 30th. That's TV Music > Classic Hits 30th. CBS Justice old slot > Classic Hits 30th. Pop Max old slot > NOW 80s (Manchester Mux only) |
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29th. 4Music has become E4 Extra on Freeview Channel 31. 29th. Quest Red +1 has moved to COM6 but stays on Freeview Channel 71.* 29th. Together TV has moved to COM5 broadcasting from 3am to 7am but stays on Freeview Channel 83 (24 hours via Red Button on some TVs).* 29th. That's TV (UK) has appeared on COM6 but is still to start broadcasting at time of posting on Freeview Channel 92.* 29th. Craft Extra removed from COM4 on Freeview Channel 95. 29th. BBC FOUR HD has appeared on BBC B but is still to start broadcasting at time of posting on Freeview Channel 106.* 29th. CBeebies HD has appeared on BBC B but is still to start broadcasting at time of posting on Freeview Channel 106.* *Viewers will need to retune to carry on watching all channel listed. ---------- Post added at 11:52 ---------- Previous post was at 11:46 ---------- Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused. 24 hours slots: -Old Craft Extra slot on COM4 -Old Ideal World Extra slot on Local Mux Part time slots: -Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only) Slots information right as of June 29th. What’s changing in June on Freeview: Soon: -BBC B Mux has room to add up to two SD Channels. -SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex. -Together TV to carry on broadcasting on Freeview but as a DTAS service - i.e. streamed channel. June: 30th. Horror Channel will become Legend on Freeview Channel 41. 30th. Freesports closes on on Freeview Channel 65. 30th. CBS Drama will become RealityXtra in reduction to coverage on Freeview Channel 68. 30th. CBS Justice closes on on Freeview Channel 69. 30th. NOW 80s move to Manchester Mux today on Freeview Channel 77. 30th. More4 +1 closes on on Freeview Channel 86. 30th. PBS America +1 closes today on Freeview Channel 87. 30th. That's TV (UK) moves from Freeview Channel 91 to Freeview Channel 65. 30th. That's TV Music will become Classic Hits and moves to a new mux and move from Freeview Channel 92 to Freeview Channel 91. 30th. Forces TV closes today on Freeview Channel 96. 30th. BBC News HD closes today on Freeview Channel 107. 30th. QVC HD will close today on Freeview Channel 111. 30th. QVC Beauty HD will close today on Freeview Channel 112. 30th. Quest HD will close today on Freeview Channel 114. 30th. A 24 hour slot on COM6 will still be not in use today on Freeview. 30th. COM7 will close today. ^Freeview viewers can access high quality streams of all its channels through the red button on Freeview Channel 16. My OWN views: I did work out on June 28th that a 24 hour slot will still be up for grabs on COM6 after all a changes coming to Freeview by July 1st. Here is what I have work out: 30th. Horror Channel > Legend 30th. CBS Drama > RealityXtra 30th. Ideal Extra old slot > RealityXtra 30th. CBS Drama old slot > SLOT will not be in use. (Unless PBS is using slot to broadcast from 11pm to Midnight every night) 30th. That's TV Music > Classic Hits 30th. CBS Justice old slot > Classic Hits 30th. Pop Max old slot > NOW 80s (Manchester Mux only) All information is right as of June 29th. |
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Are you sure those are both in COM6? There aren't meant to be more free streams untik tomorrow's changes. Whereas COM4 could accommodate one of them.
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Quest Red +1 - https://twitter.com/ukdtt/status/1542087913470672897 That's TV UK - https://twitter.com/ukdtt/status/1542087904725532672 Yesterday I did work out that a following will happen tomorrow. 30th. CBS Drama > RealityXtra 30th. Ideal Extra old slot > RealityXtra 30th. CBS Drama old slot > That's TV (UK) 30th. That's TV Music > Classic Hits 30th. CBS Justice old slot > Classic Hits as channel 91 Due to That's TV UK moving to COM6 today (not yet broadcasting) I think that safe to say that Classic Hits moving to COM6 using CBS Justice slot. With CBS Drama under it new name is set to move to Local Mux tomorrow. When watching todays PMQs I work out that COM4 (Craft Extra old slot) will still be up for grabs after tomorrow. All information may change. 14:37 UPDATE. |
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Yeah, I was still catching up when I posted that. :-)
Looks like Quest Red +1 is using the RT slot (i.e. the only currently empty COM6 slot) and That's TV UK is only showing a slate on devices it's new to, as it's waiting for the vacancies created by tomorrow's closures. BBC, Together and That's TV UK all showing slates in new locations and continuing to broadcast on COM7. |
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So it maybe is waiting for CBS Drama to move to local Mux tomorrow. But COM4 (Craft Extra old slot) will still be up for grabs after tomorrow. |
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Looks like the BBC HD streams on PSB3/BBCB aren't ready, and there's no sign of when "soon" is. They reworded a previous article.
See this blog post. https://cleanfeed.thetvroom.com/1371...d-on-freeview/ |
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After all this is completed, what apace will be left on Freeview, if any?
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All of tomorrow changes will be from Local TV Mux (RealityXtra), Man Mux (NOW 80s) and COM6. ---------- Post added at 23:58 ---------- Previous post was at 23:46 ---------- Where is PBS America getting they extra hour on freeview from July 1st? |
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It might be that Babestation offered an extra hour to PBS to cut costs if they aren't generating enough income from their first hour on air. Is the slot leased by PBS and sublet to Babestation? |
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Clearly though, the market rate for DTT space was too high for those that closed to take it. It's not just SDN that will drive that value, Arqiva's multiplex space will determine it too. We'll see later today how that price has shaped how the remaining TV services, as it's only guesswork until it happens. |
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The CBS Justice closure slate reads as follows
"CBS Justice has now closed. Continue watching more of your favourite shows from out sister channels CBS Reality on channel 67, Legend on channel 41, and RealityXtra on channel 68. Thank you for watching." If there's anything to read into this, it's that it can be noted that CBS Reality is still called a sister channel, despite it keeping the CBS branding. So if Viacom CBS and AMC are ending their joint venture and splitting the assets, they haven't yet. Or the employee who wrote the slate still feels they are part of the family. ;-) ---------- Post added at 11:31 ---------- Previous post was at 11:28 ---------- I've also noticed some odd EPG happenings on RealityXtra and CBS Justice. I'll monitor and see if they come to anything. |
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I have seen reports that Classic Hits (1am to 7am*) is Timeshare with Quest Red +1 (7am to 1am*) on Freeview COM6.
*Rumour broadcasting times. My TV says Classic Hits "will be back at 1am". If true on Reports Freeview still got TWO SLOTS up for up for grabs - An 23 hour one on COM6^ and a 24 hour one on SDN/COM4. ^Information on a COM6 slot may change when Freeview how PBS America is broadcasting their extra hour from - When will Babestation start tomorrow night? ---------- Post added at 15:05 ---------- Previous post was at 14:59 ---------- Quote:
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Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.
24 hours slots: -Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4 -Old CBS Justice slot on COM6 Part time slots: -Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only) Slots information right as of June 30th. What’s changing soon on Freeview: Soon: -BBC B Mux may have room to add up to two SD Channels. -BBC FOUR HD relaunches on Freeview Channel 106. -CBeebies HD relaunches on Freeview Channel 205. -SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex. All information is right as of June 30th. |
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The updated slate for Classic Hits now has the transmission hours for That's TV UK and itself. They align, so they are sharing a stream.
Also the Horror Bites app is rebranding as Legend. Source: Freesat website, so presumably same on Freeview. No information on CBS Catch-up Channels UK app. |
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Just thinking out loud:
PBS is moving to CBS Justice old slot to broadcast from 1pm to midnight every day. |
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And can you move to another stream on the same multiplex without a retune? I don't know for sure, though I can think of logical reasons why it might be possible. |
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Xpanded TV did so in a past when broadcasting on Freeview (Before moving to timeshare with Ideal World) 12am - 3am - Timeshare with Together TV - Before W did launch on Freeview. 3am - 7am - where Together TV is broadcasting right now. ---------- Post added at 15:55 ---------- Previous post was at 15:31 ---------- Anyway it now look like PBS WILL be getting it extra hours from Babestation. https://twitter.com/Mark56623345/sta...81822681583616 |
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*PBS is now broadcasting from 1pm to midnight (EPG updated).
*Babestation is now broadcasting from 12am to 5am (On screen info confirm it). |
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Local TV Mux set to launch in parts of North East England (Teesside and County Durham).
Due to new mast being built on Bilsdale West Moor set to go live in 2023: The Following channels will launch in a area. Information right as of July 12th 2022: *Teesside TV *GREAT! tv *GREAT! movies +1 *GREAT! movies classic *RealityXtra *Tiny POP https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/extended-f...h-east-england |
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Classic Hits moves to Ch88 and reduces to 4am-7am hours.
I thought Freeview rules meant new (to DTT) channels had to have a minimum of 6 hours a day broadcast and listed on EPG, so clearly I misunderstood or there's some way to wiggle out of it. Maybe they bought some other service's history, so to speak, and got the legacy inheritance attached to it. I've worked out what's happened. They've bought Country Music Entertainment's EPG position and space on the Manchester multiplex. Hence the full service Classic Hits MCR that's now on the old Ch91 position. Earthx TV launches on Ch 79 at 7pm on 25th August. It's apparently taking the remaining COM6 slot. I can't see this lasting long. A least it's something different. Seems to have done a deal with Now Music. Now90s now is now on Ch87. |
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Here is the up to date list of space on Freeview being unused.
24 hours slots: -Old Create and Craft Extra slot on COM4 Part time slots: -Jewellery Maker/PBS slot on COM6 (5am to 8am only) Slots information right as of August 24th. What’s changing soon on Freeview: Soon: -BBC B Mux may have room to add up to two SD Channels. -BBC FOUR HD relaunches on Freeview Channel 106. -CBeebies HD relaunches on Freeview Channel 205. -SDN to provide capacity for a 24/7 stream on Com4 multiplex. All information is right as of August 24th. |
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Talking Pictures TV is launching a Connected Red Button service on 1st September on Freeview.
Thanks to Kevin1960 on Digital Spy for the heads-up. A look on their website and there's already a FAQ. It's not an App as such, it's a Portal version of their current catch-up service on their website. FAQ --> https://www.tptvencore.co.uk/faq/red-button-faqs |
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I did read it would be a part of Freeview Play too.
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If the device is connected to the internet and the red ‘Encore’ logo appears on channel 82 then you can connect. Unfortunately, some older TVs can connect to the internet but don’t run the right technology to be compatible. If you are a real tech guru then you need to find out if your TV is HbbTV compatible, which is the technology used to launch the service. Also, some TVs come with a sticker that says “Freeview Play Ready”, which means it is definitely able to connect to Encore." A simple way of telling whether it will work by whether it's new enough to have the Play branding. Saves confusing people with tech jargon unnecessarily. Other TVs will support it, it's just more difficult to convey it. |
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The picture quality of this service is really good. Worth waiting for it to appear here rather than watching a recording.
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CBeebies HD and BBC4 HD are back on Freeview according to a516digital (Twitter, used to run what became RXTV) and RXTV. Not had a chance to see for myself.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/bbc-four-h...ed-on-freeview ---------- Post added at 16:55 ---------- Previous post was at 16:50 ---------- NHK World Japan is now available on Freeview via the Channelbox portal Ch271. https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/nhk-world-...ugh-channelbox It's far from just a News channel, lots of interesting stuff. |
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Is the programme 'Spotlight' still available, my friend loves Country and Western music?
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Spotlight is a part of Channelbox on Freeview 271 using a connected TV.
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Thanks for that Ozat, I watched a programme (I think it was BBC 2 TV) called Spotlight yesterday, but it was not Country and Western, perhaps there are two different progs called the same. :shrug: |
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ITV has confirmed that ITV2, ITV3, ITV4, ITVBe and CITV is to drop all programming from 6am to midnight and simulcast with ITV on Monday.
https://www.tvzoneuk.com/post/queensfuneral-itvplansann RXTV has reveal nothing will happen on Freeview this week. https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/on-hold-ho...s-tv-platforms |
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UK Radio Portal to launch on Freeview Channel 277 on Wednesday.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2022...h-on-freeview/ |
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The following channels will broadcast a Queen Funeral or will be off air for some time tomorrow (times very - As seen on Virgin) also if any ch. listed on a following posts have a +1 Ch. is will be shown a hour later:
BBC 1* BBC 2* ITV STV UTV S4C ITV2*** ITV3*** ITV4*** ITVBe*** Sky Arts** Pick** Challenge** BBC NEWS Sky News GB News BBC Parliament* Talk TV HD CITV*** QVC^^ QVC Beauty^^ QVC Style^^ Ideal World Create & Craft^^ Gems TV^^ TJC^^ RTÉ One (Northern Ireland only) BBC Red Button 1 (With no Commentary) *As BBC News **As Sky News ***As ITV ^^Channels has confirmed that they will be offair for some time on Monday. |
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