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Jaymoss 04-03-2022 18:45

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36115634)
True, all hands need to be on deck to deal with the current situation. I only hope that there is no undue Putin influence in our Government. I wouldn't think that there is as, even those who may have been bought, have now seen this individual for what he is.

There have also been allegations that Russia interfered with our (and other) elections and the EU referendum in order to stir up trouble and cause division in the West.

If true, he certainty succeeded in his aims. However, invading Ukrainia appears to have undone all this. I have friends right across the political spectrum, from all walks of life, faiths, races etc.

Without exception, every one of them has condemned this invasion and want to do whatever they can do to help. Long held feuds, political differences, business rivalries, prejudices etc have all been tossed to one side in favour of unity over this issue.

It's the same in the wider world too, former MP Gyles Brandreth said this morning that we effectively "rejoined the EU again for a day" after we were invited to partake in discussions with them in how to deal with this.

Could anyone have ever imagined that happening, even a fortnight ago?

Attacking nuclear power plants and a hospital (where children with cancer will die if moved to be evacuated) shows the depths that this wicked and depraved dictator will go to achieve his aims.

The best thing will be for his own to topple him from power or assassinate him. It's been an uncomfortable realisation for me today having to accept that I no longer believe that all God given life is precious.

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They did the same thing to the BBC news site earlier (see post #696).

As I said in that post, I fear that the use of a VPN could be traced and ultimately cost people their freedom/lives.

I'm hoping that someone who knows more about such things can advise us.


I think they got more to worry about than checking individual's internet connection. Seeing someone is using a VPN is relatively easy but then tracing where you went is a far bit more complicated and to do that for everyone....

Mad Max 04-03-2022 19:48

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Four NATO warships have docked on the banks of the River Tay in Dundee after arriving from Norway in the early hours of Friday morning, I actually saw one of them being guided in by a couple of tug boats early this afternoon.

Hugh 04-03-2022 19:52

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36115637)
I think they got more to worry about than checking individual's internet connection. Seeing someone is using a VPN is relatively easy but then tracing where you went is a far bit more complicated and to do that for everyone....

It would be automated, not manual…

Jaymoss 04-03-2022 19:55

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36115645)
It would be automated, not manual…

detecting a VPN usage surely but tracing all the nodes?

RichardCoulter 04-03-2022 20:27

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36115645)
It would be automated, not manual…

Could this be done en masse?

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36115646)
detecting a VPN usage surely but tracing all the nodes?

Maybe they will simply forbid people from using a VPN, so that might not matter??

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36115643)
Four NATO warships have docked on the banks of the River Tay in Dundee after arriving from Norway in the early hours of Friday morning, I actually saw one of them being guided in by a couple of tug boats early this afternoon.

Is this sort of thing routine, or could NATO be making preparations for being called upon?

Mad Max 04-03-2022 20:43

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Is this sort of thing routine, or could NATO be making preparations for being called upon?
I'm not so sure, Richard, but maybe Hugh can enlighten us with his thoughts.;)

Carth 04-03-2022 20:53

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36115643)
Four NATO warships have docked on the banks of the River Tay in Dundee after arriving from Norway in the early hours of Friday morning, I actually saw one of them being guided in by a couple of tug boats early this afternoon.


:scratch: Were any of them minelayers? :devsmoke: :D

Mad Max 04-03-2022 21:10

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36115660)
:scratch: Were any of them minelayers? :devsmoke: :D

Can't reveal that mate, signed the Official Secrets Act. :D

Hugh 04-03-2022 21:55

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36115660)
:scratch: Were any of them minelayers? :devsmoke: :D

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36115664)
Can't reveal that mate, signed the Official Secrets Act. :D

If they were in public view, and filmed by STV, pretty sure you confirming that they were two frigates and two replenishment ships wouldn’t be a breach… ;)

https://news.stv.tv/north/two-nato-w...ion-of-ukraine

Carth 04-03-2022 22:02

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36115670)
If they were in public view, and filmed by STV, pretty sure you confirming that they were two frigates and two replenishment ships wouldn’t be a breach… ;)

https://news.stv.tv/north/two-nato-w...ion-of-ukraine

I think he was going to say 'frigate' but thought the swear filter might get him :D

1andrew1 04-03-2022 22:23

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Carth (Post 36115671)
I think he was going to say 'frigate' but thought the swear filter might get him :D

:D

Mick 05-03-2022 00:43

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Russia total losses since start of invasion up to March 4th.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1646440880

Mr K 05-03-2022 08:50

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36115678)
Russia total losses since start of invasion up to March 4th.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1646440880

Trouble is they have a lot more of all of those and a cornered mad man at the helm.

1andrew1 05-03-2022 10:42

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36115683)
Trouble is they have a lot more of all of those and a cornered mad man at the helm.

As well as their own, they can count on Belarus to chip in too. Plus they have a fully-functioning economy back home whilst Ukraine's basic resources of food, energy, health, communications and sanitation are all worsening by the day.
Only real hope is Putin being deposed which seems unlikely at present.

Mick 05-03-2022 11:33

Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine
 
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Latest UK Intel:

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...1&d=1646479957


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