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Raistlin 03-08-2005 12:14

Re: Router set up help
 
Wayne,

The default gateway address, and DNS server addresses should be listed in the properties for your network card.

Right click on the icon for the card and select Status/Properties. The information you need should be in there somewhere.

MadGamer 03-08-2005 12:26

Re: Router set up help
 
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Is this right?

Tezcatlipoca 04-08-2005 23:07

Re: Router set up help
 
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Originally Posted by Wayne A
Is this right?

Partly.


The manual IP, & the default gateway, look OK.


But the alternate DNS server has the same IP as your PC!


If the router has its DHCP server turned on, then change the PC back to "Obtain IP address automatically" & "Obtain DNS automatically". Then note down what you get for the DNS.

Raistlin 04-08-2005 23:14

Re: Router set up help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt D
If the router has its DHCP server turned on, then change the PC back to "Obtain IP address automatically" & "Obtain DNS automatically". Then note down what you get for the DNS.

Pretty much what I said here, looks like Wayne got his numbers mixed up somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Raistlin
Have a look now and see what address you've got (probably something like 192.168.1.***), make a note of that, the DNS addresses, and the default gateway address.

Now tell your network adaptor to use a specific address, put in all of the details that you just wrote down.


MadGamer 04-08-2005 23:53

Re: Router set up help
 
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Originally Posted by Matt D
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
Is this right?

Partly.


The manual IP, & the default gateway, look OK.


But the alternate DNS server has the same IP as your PC!


If the router has its DHCP server turned on, then change the PC back to "Obtain IP address automatically" & "Obtain DNS automatically". Then note down what you get for the DNS.


Raistlin 04-08-2005 23:56

Re: Router set up help
 
If you click on "details" it will give you the DNS addresses that you need.

The IP address that you're showing there is DHCP assigned (your router has assigned it), if you turn off the DHCP part of your router you should just be able to fill the details in manually (into the setup for your network connection) exactly as they are on that screen (and the "details" one).

MadGamer 05-08-2005 00:05

Re: Router set up help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raistlin
If you click on "details" it will give you the DNS addresses that you need.

The IP address that you're showing there is DHCP assigned (your router has assigned it), if you turn off the DHCP part of your router you should just be able to fill the details in manually (into the setup for your network connection) exactly as they are on that screen (and the "details" one).

What ive done:

1) Set the connection to get IP and DNS automatically
2) Turned off DHCP and manually entered the IP Address of my router
3) Rebooted router

Raistlin 05-08-2005 00:08

Re: Router set up help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
What ive done:

1) Set the connection to get IP and DNS automatically

Ok.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
2) Turned off DHCP and manually entered the IP Address of my router

:erm: I'm assuming that you mean you manually entered the addresses that had previously been given to your PC by the router?

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Originally Posted by Wayne A
3) Rebooted router

Ok, so now you have a stable network connection and you can access the internet yes?

Tezcatlipoca 05-08-2005 00:11

Re: Router set up help
 
Have you actually found the DNS info yet?

MadGamer 05-08-2005 00:11

Re: Router set up help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raistlin
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
What ive done:

1) Set the connection to get IP and DNS automatically

Ok.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
2) Turned off DHCP and manually entered the IP Address of my router

:erm: I'm assuming that you mean you manually entered the addresses that had previously been given to your PC by the router?

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Originally Posted by Wayne A
3) Rebooted router

Ok, so now you have a stable network connection and you can access the internet yes?

Ive entered both the Primary and secondary DNS in my routers config page as the routers IP address both times. Should it be:

Primary DNS: Router IP
Secondary DNS: PC IP

Raistlin 05-08-2005 00:15

Re: Router set up help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
Ive entered both the Primary and secondary DNS in my routers config page as the routers IP address both times. Should it be:

Primary DNS: Router IP
Secondary DNS: PC IP

Wayne,

The Domain Name Server (DNS) looks up the web addresses that you type into your browser and converts them to IP addresses that the internet servers understand.

Your router cannot act as a DNS, entering the address of your router (or your PC) into those fields in your router will balls it up.

You need to enter them into the correct fields on the properties page for your Network adaptor.



Start > Control Panel > Network Connections

Right click on the icon for your network adaptor (the wireless one if you're connecting wirelessly, the ethernet one if that's how you're connected)

Click on "Internet Protocal TCP/IP"

Click Properties

Select "Use the following IP address"

You should have written down all of the information from earlier on - enter it in these boxes.

You don't need to enter the DNS addresses into your router, it will obtain those when it gets the IP address from your ISP.

Tezcatlipoca 05-08-2005 00:17

Re: Router set up help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
Ive entered both the Primary and secondary DNS in my routers config page as the routers IP address both times. Should it be:

Primary DNS: Router IP
Secondary DNS: PC IP


NO!


Have you actually absorbed anything that Raistlin has been saying?



- Turn ON the router's DHCP server.

- Set your PC to "Obtain IP address automatically" & "Obtain DNS Server addresses automatically".

- Note down what the IPs are (in the *details* section of the connection - you know where it is as you posted an earlier screenshot of it).


Then....

- Turn OFF the router's DHCP server.

- Manually assign the IP address, Default Gateway address, & DNS server addresses in your *PC's connection*.

A manual IP should probably be something like 192.168.1.2 (192.168.1.2 up to .99 are often used for manual IPs, and .100 & above used for DHCP assigned IPs. But the ranges depend on what the router is set for). The default gateway IP is the router IP (192.168.1.1). And the DNS server IPs are *what you should have found earlier*.


You *shouldn't* use the PC's own IP as one of the DNS server IPs - as I told you earlier in this very thread.

You *shouldn't* specify DNS addresses in the router - specify in the PC, *if* you know what they are.

The router itself should *automatically* obtain an IP from your broadband provider - and *automatically* obtain your provider's DNS server addresses.

MadGamer 05-08-2005 00:19

Re: Router set up help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Raistlin
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
Ive entered both the Primary and secondary DNS in my routers config page as the routers IP address both times. Should it be:

Primary DNS: Router IP
Secondary DNS: PC IP

Wayne,

The Domain Name Server (DNS) looks up the web addresses that you type into your browser and converts them to IP addresses that the internet servers understand.

Your router cannot act as a DNS, entering the address of your router (or your PC) into those fields in your router will balls it up.

You need to enter them into the correct fields on the properties page for your Network adaptor.



Start > Control Panel > Network Connections

Right click on the icon for your network adaptor (the wireless one if you're connecting wirelessly, the ethernet one if that's how you're connected)

Click on "Internet Protocal TCP/IP"

Click Properties

Select "Use the following IP address"

You should have written down all of the information from earlier on - enter it in these boxes.

You don't need to enter the DNS addresses into your router, it will obtain those when it gets the IP address from your ISP.

Ok, I have got down to the part where you enter the DNS info but, its asking for the secondary one, which i dont understand.

Raistlin 05-08-2005 00:21

Re: Router set up help
 
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When you allowed your PC to get the IP address automatically from your router it will have obtained 2 DNS addresses.

You wrote these down.

You need to input them into those boxes.

Here's a picture of mine:

Tezcatlipoca 05-08-2005 00:22

Re: Router set up help
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne A
Ok, I have got down to the part where you enter the DNS info but, its asking for the secondary one, which i dont understand.


Please... just read the earlier posts.


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