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It's not pointless as it's set around ToS.

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I really enjoyed it. Suprised it wasn't in 4k, those visuals deserve it

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Not a patch on Blake's 7.

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Thought it was great.

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It is pretty pointless tbh.
TOS was made 50 years ago, you cannot expect Discovery to look like something made so long ago.

I got hold of versions with the Klingon sub titles and watched them both again, it made a bit more sense this time. :D

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I know they won't make it look the same but they could at least try to make it look/feel similar as we know this is set 10 years prior to Kirk and crew.

So having sounds and similar looking ships is only right. If the ships look more advanced than they do in Voyager then they should just have set the series after that.

They also used the TMP red alart display on a screen on the ship.

I fun little easter egg I have seen is that the shelf in Captain Georiou's ready room has a load of books and on a close up photo I saw all the books are titles of ToS stories.

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Annoyingly a lot of the ship sound effects seemed to be from TNG, for me it would have been better for them to be from Enterprise.

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But we are not talking about that though Mr K.

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Likewise.:tu:

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I actictivated my fry free Netflix trial just now, got Somme free time at the weekend so I’m looking forward to seeing it.

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Just watched them both and enjoyed it :)

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Episode 3. OK I'm hooked.

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Yep, have to say I'm loving it so far.

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Me too and wish i could binge watch it.

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Wasn't too keen on the first two episodes but ep3 & I'm hooked! Hate the opening sequence though!

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3 for 3 so far.

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yup, I am already wishing they had given it a full season run because it is going to kill me when the 13 eps are up. When they renew it for season 2 I hope they look at the other Star Trek series and give it at least 20 episodes. There is so much universe to explore and story to tell.

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13 ?

There are 15 this season (split as 9 before xmas, and 6 in the new year).

Its already been renewed for season 2, although I cannot find any details of how many episodes for (likely 22).

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I knew it was in the teens :) I want 20+

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Not sure if I like this or not I was 50/50 over the first 2 as they looked like they started out like a youtube fan made movie. ep3 was pretty good then it slipped a bit with ep4 so hoping it's going to get better

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Slipped a bit how ?

The only thing that bothers me atm is that they seem to have a "blink" drive, yet this is supposed to be 10 years before TOS ..... So how come no other star trek had this technology ? (Voyger would have been a very short series with this tech !).

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Maybe a decision is eventually made not to use it on other ships for moral reasons, they are having to torture a creature to use it after all.

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lol yeah, they must have thought of that and something will obviously happen. It seems like the only way it can operate is with them putting that animal through pain so maybe its species is in limited numbers. More importantly, Star Fleet's principles will come into play regarding slavery and torture etc and a red line will have to be established with regards to how far they are prepared to go to win the war or advance technology. I am hoping to see Michael put her foot down in the next ep and do something about it.

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I thought episode 4 was great and felt a lot more Star trek like.

I am sure that the experimental drive is exactly that and will not be used in future due to it being rather unsafe or the moral reasons for enslaving a possibly sentient creature.

Glad they are bringing the science aspect into it as that is part of what I enjoy about Trek.

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There won't be much cast left if they keep killing them off this quick lol.

It's a different kind of star trek from the likes of TNG for me it's going to take a little getting used to

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Darker, grittier. Love it

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True the captain is a crazy nut job lol

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Well as they say the critics were out in force before the series started but as per usual they have been proved wrong yet again..:)

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yeah, I learnt a long time ago to ignore critics. When I was 15/16 I used to buy Empire and Total Film with my pocket money and read the reviews for films before I watched them. As a general rule of them I found that ones they liked, I disliked, and the ones they said were rubbish I loved and it made me very confused at the time. Since then I haven't bothered reading reviews and I watch trailers, go to see the film at the cinema and make my own mind up.

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Really enjoyed this weeks episode.

So glad we finally got to have the Klingons talking in English without the subtitles.

So glad the morals and consequences of the spore driving damaging a sentient being are getting explored.

Also the final scene was a clear set up for the mirror universe episode.

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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...php?p=35914655 :D

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I really enjoyed this weeks episode. It wasn't perfect though but much better.

Some real interesting things happening now and also interesting theories online about the new crew member rescued from the Klingons.

Episode 7 is looking like one of the most Trek episodes yet, with them getting stuck in a time loop.

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Yup, I need to see more of the universe now though to make it more realistic because they are running the risk of what I call ship in a bottle. The one little thing which really niggled at me in that episode is that we didn't see the admirals ship drop out of warp or dock with discovery, she just appeared in the ready room. I want to see Discovery take a bit of battle damage now (maybe in next weeks ep) and have to go to a Starbase for repairs and resupply.

My bad, I never saw that, I only saw this one so I wanted to provide a link to an official announcement.

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Yeah that bothered me too. No sign of her ship at all. Same happened last week when they met at the star base. Taking a shuttle when they could have just arrived and docked or transported there.

They could even have shown her ship arriving and then him meeting her in the transporter room.

Vulcan did look pretty cool but again nothing like the Vulcan of the Prime timeline. It looked to JJverse.

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I was very worried, I would struggle to get in to this, given the reviews I saw before it aired, but I’m hooked, it’s actually very interesting and look forward to each episode coming out each week.

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this weeks ep is the first one which has annoyed me. There is no two ways about it, Mudd should have died. He isn't one of those innocent or soft bad guys we have seen in other series who is "bad" but more mischievous than anything else and doesn't really do any harm. He callously killed random members of the crew without hesitation, is clearly going to be a threat in the future and he needs to be eliminated. Handing him over to some stupid gullible family is an absolute joke and completely unrealistic, especially knowing how we know Lorca behaves already.

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I enjoyed this episode the most so far. Felt the most trek like.

Mudd had to live for the timeline and canon. However I don't think they were a gullible family. I think the father knew what he did and was after him for it. Also perhaps the daughter manages to keep him and he mellows out within the 10 years before Kirk meets him.

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My bad, I have only ever watched a few of TOS and didn't realise he was a character in it and couldn't die.

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Wow, this weeks was the best yet, and Harry Mudd, what a bad ass (not quite like the TOS version). Perhaps 10 years with Stella changed him.

Yeah, he was in several TOS episodes, I remember one where he gave Nurse Chapel a love potion to work on Spock, and another where he had his own planet of androids.

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I feel as though they actually went back to basics in this episode. No ongoing plotlines, no war with the klingons.

Just a well played and well written villain from the original series, and a typically Star Trek "Something weird is happening" story line. i know that time loops have actually only featured once (the TNG episode "Cause and Effect"), but there are plenty of episodes where some sort of a anomaly has an effect on the ship and crew, particularly in TOS and TNG.

So far, while there are aspects of the series I am not happy with, it is generally very good and I am enjoying it.

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Yeah totally that. I wish they would just stick to the usual Trek single stories and stop with the serialised story arc, that is just annoying.

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there is the episode in Voyager where the ship gets stuck in something and different parts of the ship exist in different time periods and the only way to fix it is if Chakotay goes round and infuses the bioneural gel packs with some sort of chronological serum to bring the ship back in sync. I loved that ep because it not only took you back to the past and you remember what everyone was like to start off with, it took you to the future as well.

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There was also the TNG episode where Picard, Riker and troi I think got caught up in time bubbles that were all at different speeds of time or something like that. It was pretty cool.

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Long live the Empire !

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That episode was fantastic.

really felt more like Star Trek and having them pretend to be their mirror universe counterparts added a new twist to the MU.

Directed by Jonathon Frakes who was Will Riker in TNG and has directed a lot of Trek so knows his stuff.

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yeah I really enjoyed it and I would love to see him get more involved with the series going forward. Discovery isn't the best series around but I really do enjoy my space scifi and was looking forward to watching it last night. I think the thing which I love most about the show is how it is more like Enterprise in that it has an overlaying story arc but there are individual episode stories and when they want to they do 2 or 3 parts so they get to over something properly. When last nights ep started I thought "please don't try and get this resolved and back to normal in one episode".

There was a nice twist in last nights ep but the thing which I am looking forward to the most is seeing the dark side of Burnham. It will force her to express some emotions which she isn't used to and hopefully bring more of her human side out.

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This just gets better and better. :)

The twist at the end of this week with the captains true identity - awsome.

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I'd never seen the theory about that so it was a surprise for me but it does explain so much about him. It was excellent.

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I had an idea from the very beginning about the Captain. Be just didn't fit with what a Starfleet Captain should be.

Plus the only Survivor of his ship was a bit suspect. Not to mention his obsession with the spore drive.

I did love the episode.

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Well those twists keep on coming :eek:

The finale next week, with Philippa in charge, is going to be very interesting.

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yeah, before they do the obvious moral-mutineering and I am hoping we see Philips be ruthless and kick ass big time. At the very least we need to see some Klingon ships destroyed without hesitation and no targeting or weapons/shields/engines.

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Hmm, well a bit of a damp ending to the war. I found that kinda hard to believe tbh.

But the Enterprise (!).

.. and they played the old TOS music for the end credits.

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It was good, really though they should have played the last episode out over 3 or more episodes, you can't stop a war that's already won dead in it's tracks in 5 minutes flat.

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I think with the show runner leaving so early on that what ever he had planned was abandoned quickly. Hence the delays and split season and they just wanted to end the war as quick as possible and get things Back on track to fit canon and more inline with Rodenberrys Trek vision.

Most of the episode was reasonable and again Tilly was awesome.

Loved the final moments, I had the biggest grin on my face. Glad the Connie looked mostly right and they didn't change too much.

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yeah, I was a bit disappointed going through it and ready to have a moan. I went into it expecting it to be a 2 parter at the very least with a cliffhanger to roll into season 2. The thing which made up for it for me was Burnham being reinstated. You know what I am like with my "realism" stuff and it was doing my head that a Specialist was having so much influence in not only command decisions, but the actual fate of the Federation and the quadrant. Like I said last week, it makes sense for her to be promoted and I am delighted she is back to Commander. I would like to say that she can now make decisions without having to explain herself but as science officer she is still going to have to justify everything to flipping Saru. I am hoping this is going to make her 2nd officer though and maybe she can lead more away missions and stuff like that.

Overall I enjoyed season 1, a lot more than I was expecting, and I hope they get season 2 ready (without delay) for the fall tv season.

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I know you talk about realism but it's science fiction and there for will not have a lot of realism or fact as such.

I just enjoy stuff for what it is.

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The story or the setting doesn't have to be realistic because I accept that as the reality/world people live in. What does have to be realistic for me is the way characters react to events, especially if they are established characters in a series and we already know them very well and how they behave. If they do something atypical and stupid for the sake of the story/script and it doesn't make sense then it does my head in and spoils the whole thing for me.

Next time it happens in something big I'll let you know.

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Isn't that most shows and movies. Characters do what ever the writer want them to do or behave in a way that suits the story.

Horror films always have characters acting in stupid ways and doing things that get them killed. Real people probably would never do those things.

Same for Trek and other shows.

Wonder how if if we will actually see Pike and the Enterprise set in s2.

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exactly and that is why I cant watch horror films. "Oooo, I know all my friends have been murdered but I just heard a sound in that dark room over there so let me go and see what it is. I am not going to take a knife or anything with me to protect myself either".

My exception to horrors are the Scream films because Sydney fights back and has the common sense to carry a gun.

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Anson Mount (Black Bolt in InHumans) has been cast as Pike. I've only seen him in the first episode of Inhumans and I can't see that it impressed me. He was in Hell on Wheels too.

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Well since Inhumans is cancelled, he needs other work :D

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That is from Star Trek.com but I have heard rumours that Patrick Stewart is going to be involved and reprise his role as Captain/Admiral/Ambassador Picard.

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Lolz.

Kurtzman is going on a five year mission ;)

I heard rumours a few weeks back about Picard. Patrick Stewart has even spoken and hinted that he may return to Picard.

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All sounds good, cant wait to see what they do in the next five years.

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yeah, we have defo had a long enough break post-Enterprise and it is about time they get things going again. I am glad Discovery is doing well but I would defo like a traditionally themed series maybe set it in the future on a time ship like the Relativity.

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we might get a future set series if Stewart does indeed return as Picard.

I think that could potentially be awesome.

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https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebri...eturn-12778133

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https://www.polygon.com/tv/2018/6/19...k-tv-shows-cbs

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As much as I liked the Next Gen at 77 he's way past it. While I wouldn't mind a reboot it would perhaps be better to have him in there as a supporting role.

I liked some of the fan based ones that shoot around youtube. Not sure where they could go with a reboot?

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They could have him as Admiral Picard and focus on him managing Starfleet or on a mission that goes wrong and he needs to step up. Have it as a short 8-10 episode run

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After listening to Mr Picards views on Brexit and calling people stupid he has certainly phasered himself in the foot as far as I'm concerned. Feel free to warp into a star.

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yup, I think something like that would be perfect

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Do you have a link to where he called people "stupid" about Brexit, please, as I can’t find anything?

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Season 2 trailer

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looks fantastic and the special effects are amazing. I just hope it isn't too cheesy and stupid and OTT with the comedy moments to try and appease The Orville fans.

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I think it looks great and far more like Trek, with light hearted moments, actual exploration and not war.

Also the space scenes actually appear brighter and easier to see.

I think the change in leadership of making the show has helped a lot.

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Why would they be trying to appease Orville fans. :confused:

Most Orville fans are also Discovery fans anyway, and (we) dont need to be appeased.

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What he said.

I like both series.

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There was also other info announced.

Before the series returns in Early 2019, there will be 4 mini 10-15 minute long episodes or "short Treks" getting released in Autumn. 1 per month.

They will focus on
Saru's backstory.
One about Harry Mudd
Tilly's journey on board Discovery
A man who wakes to find he is the only person on board a ship.

Also Pike's Number One, played by Majel Barrett in 'The Cage' will be played in Season 2 by Rebecca Romijn.

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Unfortunately no. He was on a programme months ago and voiced an opinion that people who voted out were misguided and ill informed. I was rather cross with the dear chap.

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http://www.startrek.com/article/sir-...ic-picard-role

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This makes me very very happy indeed.

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And me too...

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Me too. It is going to be amazing seeing him back in uniform and the opening scene is going to be very emotional.

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Here is the announcement:

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About 9 mins 15 secs into the clip if you dont want to watch it all. ;)

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http://www.startrek.com/article/etha...covery-s-spock

Ethan Peck has been cast as Spock -- the half-human, half-Vulcan Science Officer of the U.S.S. Enterprise, and foster brother of Michael Burnham -- in the upcoming second season of Star Trek: Discovery

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Well at least if they're not now doing the rebooted Star Trek 4, there won't be two Spocks ;)

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Very cool, he is Gregory Peck's grandson,

They have also promised a new look for the Klingons too. perhaps more in line with what they should actually look like.

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The current production team do seem committed to reversing some of the needless damage done to the established continuity by those originally tasked with reviving the franchise. They have a very difficult task but thankfully the trek universe has proven itself adaptable in the past.

With the Klingons, I’d put my money on a botched attempt to rectify the superhuman genetic treatment as the ‘in universe’ explanation for the over-Klingon Klingons in Discovery season 1.

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There was reference to Kahless, and how he created the first Bat'leth which was in a TNG episode.

'He took a lock of hair and flung it in the Volcano, to create the first Bat'leth.'

Apparently the fanatical Klingons we saw were inspired by that and got rid of their hair. Also there was mention that we only saw 6 of the 24 houses.

It is good though that the current show runners are trying to undo all the screw ups within canon/continuity and find ways of correcting them.

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well this is a let down. For some reason I had it in my head that there were 4 mini series each with 4 episodes in each telling a different story and I thought it made sense because it would work out at one series person month starting in October and take us up to Discovery season 2 in January. But no :nono:

http://www.startrek.com/article/shor...edule-revealed

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I always knew it was 4 episodes with it being one per month till the new series starts.

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Here was my post from July

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I didn't see that, whatever press release I read at the time made me think there were going to be 4 mini series of indeterminate episode length but probably 4 episodes each so you would have one series per month and one of them was Captain Picard's. So is he having a full series of his own now?

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Not sure what gave you those ideas.

Yes. Picard is a totally separate series and will be set roughly 20 years after Nemesis.

The plan in future is to always have some sort of Trek show on air or in production.

There were rumblings of a new animated show as well.

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Season 2 trailer

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looks good. I knew they were expanding their horizons but I didn't realise there were going as far as Pandora :)

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Season 2 looks so much better than the first one. I just hope it holds up from the trailer as much as I enjoyed the first one it didn't grap me as much from the other trek series

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There was a big change in Showrunner and production so they appear to have listened to the fans and undone some of the silly things that Simon Fuller brought in at the start of Season 1. However he was gone midway through season 1 and the latter half os the season does show a big difference from where it started.

but no with the bringing back of proper Klingons(albeit with a silly reason) and the apparent classic Klingon ships being reintroduced as well as tryig to cram in and fit it back to cannon in some ways, I appreciate their efforts but when you read some of their reasons and the excuses they are a bit lame.

For example, trying to tie back to Kahless and him cutting lock of hair and throwing it in a volcano to make the first Bat'lethm they have explained the no hair Klingons were because they were at war so shave all their hair and then grown it during war. but then they weren't at war in the start of the show so?.... but also the makeup is clearly different and facially the ridges and features are now more in line with the TNG Klingons.