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No they show all the episodes, just when you tune in you seem to catch the same ones.

A few weeks ago, now thats hardly the same episode every week is it.

Check this link, Watch are showing Series 2 & 3 on Sat evenings from 8pm. However searching the listings shows they are starting again from series 1 on the 1st Dec at 6pm

http://uktv.co.uk/watch/homepage/sid/6833

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Im not talking about that.. I am talking about Instead of showing one episode then the next.. they show the same episode 3 times in 2 weeks..

For example a 1-2 weeks ago I watched the Haunted House, Angels Episode.. and the Next time Dr who was on It was a different episode. Then the next time Dro who was on.. Its the Haunted House.. again

then again on the sunday, I liked it when BBC3 were showing like an episode a day :)

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Sometimes the small digital channels have the same programme in a couple of different slots during the day or week. You may find that, say, they are showing Who on Mondays, Tuesdays and twice on Wednesdays, but that in each of those four slots the show is at a different point in its run. So you could watch Blink (the haunted house episode) on Monday at 7pm, then the next week tune in on Wednesday at 9pm and find that slot has just reached the point when it shows Blink. To follow the series through in the right order you may have to tune in at on the same day each week and at the same time, regardless of how many other days in the week they are screening the show.

The only way to make absolutely sure of how and when a channel is showing a series is to use an online TV guide like Digiguide or Radiotimes and run a search. Read through the results and try to identify any patterns. You should be able to spot whether the show is getting one repeat run in one or more slots, or multiple repeat runs simultaneously and possibly staggered.

Or, as Flyboy has pointed out, wait until BBC Three does another repeat run, they normally start at the beginning and show one a day. And get your DVD recorder ready.

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Or as I have edited my post search the listings on the Watch site and you will see they are showing all series and looks to me to be in running order everyday :)

Also HMV has the boxsets on sale at around £25 per series if you would rather own them. I have them all and means I can watch anytime I want to. Same goes for all the original series Doctor Who DVDs.

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Amazon have the first three box sets much cheaper than HMV.
Series 1 - £13.88, Series Two - £13.88, Series Three - £16.28 & Series 4 - 27.88

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Good find DW.

In fact I need to rebuy series 1 as I originally bought the Tardis shaped edition which doesn't fit on my selves.

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I'm sorely tempted myself, but then I look at the unopened 42 DVD Babylon 5 box set I bought two years ago...

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I have them all but as its so cheap want the series 1 set again just so I have the normal case. Is that daft, lol.

Wow bet that set you back a bit.

I watched the trailer again for the End of Time, so can't wait till Christmas :)

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I fully understand the need to have all the box sets in the same style packaging. ;)
I see that Amazon have the Complete Doctor Who - Series 1-4 for £58.48.

The B5 boxset was around £100 at the time, it was down to £60 this summer. Currently £62.98 including The Lost Tales.

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Thankyou Everyone, Saved me a lot of confusion now :)

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I'd buy that 1-4 boxset if I didn't have each season already :D

Used to love B5 back when it first started on Ch4.

Also adzii you are welcome. Happy viewing :)

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John Simm must have had a lot of fun filming that!

And the ending... I wasn't expecting that. I thought RTD might drag out the Daleks yet again or something, but not that...

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Get out of that. I can't wait for the next part to it.

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Well that was a roller-coaster of an episode, and a great twist at the end.

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Dr Poo imo

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I wasn't very impressed by the episode itself (although I did love John Simm's OTT Master), but I did like the twist at the end.

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There is a clip of part 2. Don't watch it until you have watched part one though.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/s4/episodes/S0_09

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Me neither. :(

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I really enjoyed it and am glad to see the



although from the clips it looks like

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Ditto. Not the best IMO, but lets see where the twist goes.

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I'm pretty much sure John Simm saved that episode.

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Hhhmmm not seen it yet and from what people are saying it sounds pretty poor like the last special was, still I live in hope :)

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It wasn't awful, just a little weak.

Was fun to spot the locations around here where they were filming though, the part in the docks when the Doctor sees The Master for the first time is about a mile from where I live and the scene where they were in the cafe and Donna was outside was done back in early April.

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It wasn't that it was poor, I am sure seeing the 2nd part it will make it a lot better.

Usually the first part of something can just be a story build up and until you see the final part of the story you can feel a little let down.

The Doctors breakdown in the cafe with Wilf was one of the best scenes imo.

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I am wondering if it will be revealed that Wilf is actually Tom, from Daleks' Invasion Earth: 2150 AD and he had to have his mind, wiped like Donna's and that is why there is a connection to the Doctor.

If not, I was a bit disappointed that they didn't play on that connection, when he first appeared in Voyage of the Damned. It would have been a good way to connect the new style Dr Who to the past.

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"Daleks' Invasion Earth: 2150 AD" isn't part of the same continuity as the DW TV series.

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Strangely, "Wilfred Mott" is an anagram of "Timelord FTW" (or also "Timelord WTF")...

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... and in the canonical version of that story (the Hartenll-era 'Dalek invasion of Earth'), the character doesn't feature.

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Indeed, they even get several things wrong. Not least the fact that the Doctor actually has the surname "Who" in the films (he has a name in the TV series, but it is not "Who" and is never used due to it apparently being beyond the comprehension of humans) and the fact that he is human in the films..

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They were simply made to cash in on the success of the TV series, as they were just movies of two existing Dalek stories from the 1st Doctor era.

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They didn't get anything 'wrong' per se ... they were simply 'based upon' the TV series, rather than being straight re-makes. Much the same way as a novel made into a feature film is rarely 100% like-for-like.

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I got round to watching part one last night. It was ok I guess.

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Absolutely, there was plenty for the backstory/continuity junkies in this episode ... the Doctor reflecting on the consequences of regeneration is absolute gold. There was also a throwaway mention of a place-name on Gallifrey (plains of something, I didn't catch it - did anyone else?), and the revelation that the Master's father owned a big estate, and the Master and the Doctor used to play together on it when they were children.

I love all that stuff - the show has been around so long now, it really does deserve to have the same sort of depth as Middle Earth, and I think RTD has been a genius at drawing together all the fragmented bits and pieces of background that were part of the original series more by accident or convenience than by design, and tying them together with new and exciting glimpses of places we can now only hope to see on screen in the future.

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I'd rather the just cancelled it when it was on a high (and I don't count this years specials as all that good so far) instead it seems to be heading for a reboot.

Still I thought galactica was going to be crap - so we shall see.

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OH YES!!!!

You just gotta love the "NOT GINGER" comment :D:D:D

I wonder how many will complain about that

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Steven Moffatt has written some of the best episodes in the new series. It doesn't automatically follow he will be a good replacement for Russell T Davis (who, IMO, isn't a great script writer, but has done a damn good job running the show).


It will be interesting to see any changes.

It's funny talking about this as a "reboot". The show has changed massively after every regeneration. While John Pertwee was the doctor, the show was very action-orientated, with the Doctor often getting involved in fights. While Tom Baker was the Doctor, then the show varied between being a comedy, action show and horror (often in the same story), while under Peter Davison, the show became more serious, and often more violent.

Stiil, as you say, we shall see.

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Very very good episode, I think they dragged the ending out a far though.

Not sure about having a Doctor who looks about 14. But let's give him a chance :D

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Seeing the TARDIS interior getting trashed makes sense.

I heard that the interior gets a revamp.

I won't comment on MS as the new Dr, because I pre judged DT and was wrong.

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Didn`t really like the bit with John Barrowman in it, seemed like a Star-Wars rip off with all them aliens walking round a boozer(maybe that was deliberate!).
All in all an enjoyable watch, dragged the ending out a bit though!

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:notme:

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that was very good !

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To me that felt like just another excuse for the usual RTD-inspired "get something gay in to each episode" angle.

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LOL. It did seem a bit like the Mos Eisley Cantina!


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I liked it. I thought it was a lot better than part 1. I thought the way he met his end was done well, sacrificing himself for Wilf rather than being killed by The Master or The Lord Bond. I also liked the goodbye sequence - didn't think it was over long, just touching.


Who was "The Woman" though? How/why was she contacting Wilf?

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I thought it was good, but they got rid of the Timelords a bit quickly though.. Would have been nice to see the Timelords back, and intent on evil..

As for the JB bit, I thought the woman sitting next to him was actually dressed slightly like Princess Leia , so I think it was deliberate..

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I thought the ending was nice, as it seemed like they were trying to tie up some loose ends, and let us know that the characters who helped the doctor along the way, prospered.

I also liked the fact that it seemed liked he was giving his life to save one man. A lot of the newer Doctor Who stories have involved the Doctor saving whole civilisations, and this is one problem I've had with the series under RTD. I find it hard to empathise when a whole civilisation is put in danger, because that's on a scale I can't envisage properly. Putting one man in danger, that is on a scale that I can envisage, easily..

And yes, I do know that Wilf was put in danger as a result of the Doctor saving civilization, but the Doctor wasn't killed directly by saving the humans..

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A complete re-build, in fact, while the external prop has been re-dressed so it looks as the TARDIS appeared in the original pilot episode in 1963 (which wasn't even broadcast at the time).

The production reason for doing it is that the 2005 set wasn't intended to be shot in HD, and so had to be replaced out of necessity, as it's all going to be shot in HD from now on.

There has been much speculation over the in-universe reason for the new set, but it would appear to have something to do with the Doctor trying to resist the regeneration process.

I think that was quite deliberate. They have referenced numerous sci-fi films and shows in the past.

I don't think so - I think it was a well thought out approach to regeneration. He had a few minutes' warning that his time was up, so he took the chance to cram in as much as he could. In a way it was also an antidote to the somewhat decadent adventures he said he went on before returning to the Oodsphere at the beginning of this story.

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New series trailer is up:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/newyear/

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Any speculation on the identity of "The Woman"?

I've seen various ideas thrown about... Romana, The Doctor's mother, an older Donna, an older Rose...

She seemed a bit unnecessary to me.



A pity we didn't get more of The Lord Bond. Dalton was great.


re. The Time War...

So it was The Doctor who actually "Time Locked" it, trapping the Timelords & Daleks*?

I do remember the Time Lock being mentioned before, but I'd always assumed that The Doctor had done something worse & actually destroyed Gallifrey, The Time Lords, & the Daleks.

*[Well, apart from all those Daleks that escaped of course]

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And it looks good, I reckon he could do well. I just hope they don't try to turn him 'sexy'.

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Already in the season 5 thread ;) :)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/11...eason-5-a.html

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On the whole it was a good ending for DT, I enjoyed the tying up of loose ends and I thought the Star Wars homage was spot on. Anyone for a spin off series, Mr & Mrs Smith starring Martha & Micky? (instead of Angelina & Brad). ;)

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Anyone remember when Rassilon was last in Classic Who?

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I'd forgotten how hot Martha was too :romance:

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As a disembodied head, floating above his own tomb in The Five Doctors:

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...010/01/139.jpg

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His only actual appearance, IIRC, although he was mentioned numerous times.

Incidentally, I wouldn't assume that the character we saw this evening actually was the Rassilon. It was left really very vague, deliberately so, I think.

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Just been reading Wikipedia.

My memory was correct, I think I've just been confusing myself - The Doctor did end the Time War personally, by destroying both the Daleks and the Time Lords - he "burned" the Dalek Fleet, and Gallifrey with it.

The Time Lock was a separate thing, not the thing that ended the war.

So I would assume that after The Doctor sent The Lord Bond and co. back to the "bubble that's not a bubble" that is the Time Locked Time War, they and the Daleks would then soon be "burned" by an earlier Doctor's use of the "moment".


Yup, maybe. Or perhaps the Time Lords brought him back somehow to lead them in the Time War.

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I'm not the only one who thinks DT changed his mind when he said "I don't wanna go" am I? :D

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Nope ... :D

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They never want to die and most have said something onlong similar lines over the years.

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So did the women give Will the gun to shoot himself in the cabin or?

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I thought Martha and Mickey were to be a part of the next Torchwood team? :confused:

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That may be exactly what they were doing when they appeared last night ...

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I just saw it and thought it was ok. A fitting end. It would have made a fitting end to the series too, ah well.

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I believe Tom Baker has recently said he wouldn't mind coming back if asked.. Admittedly, he may be a bit old now.

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My first thought that the woman was the Watcher, who has a propensity to turn up when the Doctor re-generates, or even the White Guardian, but observing the Doctor's re-action when she uncovered her face, he appeared to have a familial concern about her, or at least someone to whom he felt close to. I thought that she might be his mother and the make figure (yet to be revealed) was his father. I like the idea that she might be an older Donna, taking the role of an "honorary" Timelord, due to the meta-crisis, but that would not work with the concept of the time lock. The Doctor would have been aware of her presence at the time of the war.

I most of all like the idea that it might have been Romana, from I can remember, she secured a seat in the high council and subsequently was elected President (or was that a YouTube ep?). If I am wrong, she is still in "N" space and therefore not involved at all.

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Mark Lawson, reviewing this episode in the Grauniad, points to a number of parallels between it and Hamlet, which both David Tennant and Claire Bloom (who played the woman) have appeared in recently. Tennant of course played Hamlet. Claire Bloom played Hamlet's mother. ;) It's quite fascinating and worth a read:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/tv-and-rad...who-regenerate

Actually, the comments beneath the article are even more of an eye-opener, there are some real nutcases touring the interwebs right now, variously whingeing about RTD 'ruining' Doctor Who (and conveniently forgetting that about 10 million people disagree), or getting very precious when non-fans like Mark Lawson dare to make definitive statements about the mystery woman's identity, when those statements contradict their own pet theories - theories that are invariably nothing more than highly convoluted FW.

I think Russell T Davies has steered a very careful and clever path through the show's backstory, using elements that suit his own storylines without being forced, droping throwaway references in for the fans to enjoy, and always keeping well clear of the arcane. For example, he likes to re-use concepts like Artron energy soaking the body of a time traveller, but not in a way that requires you to have seen and understood The Deadly Assassin or Four to Doomsday.

On the subject of Romana ... in TV canon (the only one that counts IMO) she is still in e-space, with K9 and some Tharil bloke. Acording to some original novels and audio dramas, she returned to normal space and became president of the Time Lords on Gallifrey. RTD only seemed to validate non-TV adventures as Canon if he chose deliberately to bring them into the TV realm, for example by having The Moff re-work Sally Sparrow's adventures from a Dr Who annual into Blink, or by re-telling Human Nature, which was created as a 7th Doctor original novel. Given RTD's record in this department I think it imposibly unlikely that he intended the character to be someone who is utterly obscure to fans of the new series. He wouldn't have just thrown it in there because it would have demanded too much explanation.

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over 2 million people read the dailymail, despite their best efforts people keep voting for labour and the conservatives.
in my length of time here on this planet i've concluded that most people are idiots.

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wassatyousay?

The Daily Heil has been reluctantly nuLab since the mid 1990s and has progresively turned to frothing hard right over the last 4-5 years. And it has a loyal following of 2 million because those are the same people who like to hear what it has to say. Love it or hate it, the Mail is extremely good at what it does.

Just as RTD has been extremely good at his job. ;)

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Which makes me think that it could be any of the above. Parental relationships are easy to explain to the new crop of fans, but harder for fans of the Doctor for the last forty years, from what I can remember there wasn't much reference to them in the old series. The Gaurdian and Watcher would be easy to explain to new fans as well as part of canon. They were explained before and can be explained again.

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i've not read the guardian link cos it's 01:25 but i thought it was his mother and the other figure with his hands over his face was his father. they were the 2 votes against the action the timelords took because they knew that what they would do would kill their son.