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I suppose we’ll have to casually forget that he’s actually an android now.

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I doubt it - that gives the storytellers access to oodles of potential plot lines discussing the essence of humanity, which is the very currency Star Trek has always traded in.

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A trailer for season 2 has been released. Ironically the only decent copy I can find (and can't embed) is on the StarTrek.com website so you'll have to follow the link below:

https://intl.startrek.com/videos/wat...n-2-first-look

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does not like my adblocker.

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Yeah, they can frack off.

Not sure if this is the same thing

https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a...ailer-villain/

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it is :tu:

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Patrick Stewart is 81 today. I wish we could turn back time.

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If I could find a way …

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I am so disgusted in myself for actually getting this reference !! hehe

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Earworm :devsmoke:

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It has been renewed for a 3rd season

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I should hope so too.

Loving that trailer though - its themes are all unashamedly ST:TNG.

With a little VOY to keep Boimler happy :D

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I am hoping that that is just a teaser and they'll release another one closer to the premiere date. I am not too keen on the new cast and that trailer was too generic for me and didn't feel Treky enough. I want a special moment to be teased between Picard and Guinan like we had with Picard and Riker in season 1.

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This has been known for a long time.

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I thought it sounded familiar and couldn't remember whether it has officially been renewed or just whether I expected it to be.

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From the trailer, Season 2 looks awsome. :D

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If Discovery runs to 13 episodes again, it will finish on 10 Feb 2022, meaning its highly likely Picard will follow on from it, starting on the 17th Feb 2022.

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Are you kidding?

Q messing up the timeline forcing the Captain du jour to time-travel in order to fix it is about as Trekky as it gets.

Realism factor 10, Mr Sulu …

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I liked that bit and it felt perfect, the rest of it didn't. I just don't like the new cast. If it was Q, Picard, Guinan and the original cast then it would be perfect.

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Guinan’s appearance in the new series is assured. They can’t just shoehorn everyone in at once though, otherwise it starts looking like a benefit concert rather than a continuation of the story.

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I know but rather than brining the crew back together I am under the impression they are rotating them in and out and the new cast is the main cast. I don't think we are seeing Riker and Troi again this season. Afaik it is just Guinan this season, which fits perfectly with time travel, and next season it is Worf. I hope they bring Geordie back as well.

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Picardy IS the main character. Anyone else is just a side character who may or may not stick around for long .

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I don't wanna see all these TNG characters. It has been 20 years, they would of moved on from the Enterprise and are doing their own thing.

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None of them are on the Enterprise, and all were/are "doing their own thing".

The story brings them together, at various points, in a totally believable way.

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Picard does ST IV - Voyage Home. Why not.

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Looking forward to Season 2 which premieres March 3rd 2022.

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Lots to unpack from that.

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Excellent start to S2. Season preview at the ends looks awesome

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Superb first episode. Lots of little Easter eggs. And some proper starfleet action at last. :D

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I was very pleased at how good it was and all they've changed after much criticism over S1 in that it didn't really feel like star trek. They certainly went all out on fixing it just for the opening scene even.

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Really enjoyed it.

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I wasn’t nearly as bothered as some that S1 didn’t feel like Star Trek. I was happy with the proposition that we were following the private adventures of a retired starfleet officer. The universe Star Trek depicts is vastly greater than starfleet and I enjoyed seeing it from a viewpoint the shows don’t often give us.

From the teasers I’ve seen, that first episode is about as much starfleet as we’re going to get in this season. From here on, Q has done something naughty, and Picard is going to find himself dealing with some very unfamiliar situations.

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Must have been only on paramount plus. Prime didn't have anything

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It was found and downloaded by Sonarr hahaha

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Assume it's this that's been posted to the website
https://intl.startrek.com/videos/pre...ar-trek-picard

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If he meant the season preview it was included on the file I got hold of. That site wont load due to my adblocker

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Its in the copy I have as well.

Interesting start to Season 2.

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What a superb way to respect and honour the man. If the episodes weren't released weekly and the entire season had dropped in one go I would be staying up tonight and watching it.

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A few observations.

Loved the way Q started out de-aged, just for a second or two.

Loved how the trip out through the solar system, riffed on the opening titles of TNG.

Was surprised to see the Excelsior, and it looked like the original Excelsior which would have made it a very old ship to still be in service!

I probably missed lots of other eggs, I'll have to go and fine them.

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What made it better for me was I'd forgotten it was starting so fired up Plex to watch Discovery and there it was. Oh and thanks to Q they can go off and do what they want without worrying about changing history. Think it's going to be superb but also hope they manage to put history back to normal by the end of season 3!

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you subbing to someone for your plex? I run a plex server but just for family

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My own server, with nzbfinder.ws, Sonarr and SABnzdb.

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I use all them as well with Radarr, Tabula Rasa and NzbNoob as extra indexers

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This week is woke week.

So many Hispanics being disappeared, Nasty government ICE agents channelling that NAZI spirit, a young Guinan telling Picard he has the power to change things as a white man, whilst a black woman such as herself ….not so much. We’re killing the planet…..

ST has always ran with story lines that reflected current issues or important issues, I know.

But I felt like I was being hit over the head with it in this episode. Maybe I’m being over sensitive.

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Loved the Kirk R. Thatcher cameo though hahaha took me right back

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That's how i feel about Discovery every week. I loved the reference to Star Trek 4 though. It made me laugh.

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Can't say any of this wokeness has really stood out or felt in my face. Hadn't given it a second thought to be honest. It's stuff you hear and see most days so isn't unusual.

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It was funny, but how many people would have a ghetto blaster in 2024!


A pair of Beats Pods in his ears whilst looking at his iPhone wouldn’t have the same affect, I suppose!

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ear pods would not be very punk would they haha

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Oh it did, it was almost cringeworthy. :sleep:

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I didnt realise it was the same guy until seeing it mentioned somewhere. :)

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I am surprised you have stayed so quiet over Discovery

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Levar Burton, Michael Dorn, Johnathan Frakes, Gates McFadden, Marina Sirtis and Brent Spinner will be joining the cast of Star Trek: Picard for Season 3.

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Fantastic. I had a feeling they were spreading the returning guests out because they have said several times that they didnt want it to be TNG 2.0 and any returns would have to be in keeping with the story. I was hoping they would get Geordie and Worf back for season 3. What would be beautiful, and make me cry, is if the closing scene in the final episode is all the characters together again for what I imagine will be the very last time ever.

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I thought season 3 was filmed straight after 2?

Season 3 is also the last so should be a great send off for Picard.

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Correct

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Wasnt Brent Spiner in Season 1 ?

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Yes, but it was only today they announced who would be in it as guest stars. They'd kept it under wraps until now.

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Briefly.

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And twice. Several appearances as Data and a Soong

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As well as Riker and Troi

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Get your tissues ready..........

Have you got them?

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Well I guess that means he fixes the timeline in Season 2. :D

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What's made me curious is when they are planning to release it because it is the first time i have ever seen a series/season promoted half way through the previous season. I could understand them teasing us as soon as season 2 finished but we are only half way through. They have finished filming season 3 so it may be sooner than we think....

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It'll be next year. They also teasing Strange New Worlds S2 and we don't even have S1 yet.

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Help me out, is Picard an android or not?

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His body is, but it behaves like a real body.

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"Some transplants, how many"
"all of them"
And then the equipment went sparky sparky

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I was thinking the same thing

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His body is artificial but designed to mimic biological life as closely as possible. It started as a ‘golem’, a lifeless template which was then finished by reference to deep scans of the dying body it was to replace. Picard has had, more or less, a whole body transplant, as was alluded to in the dialogue this week.

Remember we had 7 complete seasons to learn exactly what Soong had achieved with Data, Lore and Juliana, and that was achieved through multiple episodes devoted to the topic. We’re never going to get quite that level of in-universe exposition in Picard.

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I was really hoping he was from the Relativity and had come back to help

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That may well be the best hour of Star Trek I have ever watched. At first I thought, is that Dr Bashir? I recognised him but couldn’t place him, then obviously..that’s who he is! (actor wise).

Some call backs….l’m from Iowa, I only work in outer space…..for example.

Great stuff.

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It was the guy that played Gaius Baltar in Battlestar Galactica.

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James Callis

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Baltar :D

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Also Bridget Jones’ best (gay) friend Tom, a role he camped up to the moon and back and clearly had far too much fun with :D

It’s good to have an actor of note involved when you’re canonising the backstory of legends like Picard - I’m glad that he gets to be Picard snr. even if we never get to see him on screen again.

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I feel like we will see him again. It was mentioned that there is more to his backstory.

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Will stick with it, but found myself getting a bit bored during today's episode.

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We are nearly at the end anyways

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Don't think I'm a fan of the story running through the entire series, enjoyed it when it was wrapped up in an episode or at most continued from the last episode of one series to the first of the next. I liked how you could dip in and out without worrying about what happened last week. I'm sure I'm not alone!

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I dont mind serialised stories because they give you chance to really sink your teeth into something. When they are done well they are fantastic (e.g. The Expanse and Reacher) but the problem i have noticed recently with streaming services is that somebody decides they want an 8 episode season, thinks of a start and a finish and then they have to work out how they fill the middle. Like you said, i think some of these stories could be put into 3 or 4 good episodes but instead they are stretched out. The Book of Boba Fett is a perfect example of this. I would rather them tell a quality story for as long (or as short) as it needs to be and then move onto the next story which naturally follows on and progresses the overall story arch.

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What an hour of quintessential Star Trek, that was.

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I just cant get into this second series it seems to be all over the place to much happening at once.

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They've left a lot to fix and sort out for the last episode next week. So much will be brushed over quickly. Been mostly filler and wasted time.

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I'm just hoping that the 3rd and final season will be better than this.

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Well it's got all the TNG cast so that's 1 thing but it was written and filmed along with this season so who knows.

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that doesn't mean anything. I can't even begin to describe how much of a missed opportunity I think it has been to not have had more of Guinan/Whoopi Goldberg in this season. The story was literally screaming out for her and would have been a perfect excuse for her to spend some quality time with Picard and have a truly meaningful deep story arc. Instead we get all the drivel from the new wannabes. They (the writers and producers) know that if they bring all the TNG cast back early in season 3 and keep them, nobody will give two shits about the new cast they can happily retire to the background. I will go so far as to say that if any of them came into a scene and had dialogue that it would be met with fury because they will be taking away precious time from the TNG cast. In a perfect world hopefully there is an accident when they try to fix the timeline next week and the new cast get erased. It would be amazing if we can start season 3 off with a clean slate, the TNG cast and go out with a bang.

They have done their quirky story and cast changes for novelty, now it is time to bring it home and finish how it started.

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Wwll the new cast won't be erased. I think it will be a last hurrah for the TNG cast and they'll go on one last adventure together to do something 'important'

This season could have been great but they wasted too many episodes on things that should have taken 10 mins.

They have too much to resolve in a single episode. That it will be rushed and meaningless. Q being unwell has been totally forgotten about and to me was the main reason for the time travel and setup.

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Exactly, this season could have been fantastic just dealing with Q and Guinan with a side of Data but instead we had to have all the other nonsense.

It baffles me how we can see it but the muppets in the writers room can't.

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Not only that but the amount of time they wasted on Picards mother and the flashbacks is ridiculous. Which also ignores TNG in that his mother was seen as an old woman, also where was Picards brother in all of those flashbacks? Did they forget about him?

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I am glad to see your realism factor is alive and well

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I have tried to explain it a thousand times without any luck and this is what it is all about. Does what we are seeing and being told make sense within the confines and parameters of the established universe and what (if any) we already know.

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There is no realism factor for me. But simply put there are decades of Trek history and lore that's just being ignored. Ship and tech designs that are being changed and replaced. It's just bad writing.

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I can’t even. Why do you even bother watching it?

This show’s interest in psychology is entirely consistent with TNG. Entire episodes were devoted to Data’s dream state (cellular peptide cake, anyone? It has sugar frosting), Riker’s brainwashing (or was it a play he was rehearsing for in 10-Forward?) and Picard’s will-he-won’t-he-break-under-torture (THERE ARE FIVE LIGHTS). The show’s entire musical score is built out from an episode that dealt with a computer-induced dream state.

Guys, much as I love chewing over sci fi with you all, I am deeply thankful you’re not allowed anywhere near the writers room. With the greatest of respect to you, if you had written this show it would have looked like the repetitive, one-trick fanwank that litters YouTube rather than a credible continuation of the franchise.

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I simply disagree with that. I love every iteration of Trek so much and have seen enough to know what makes a good episode or story.

However writers now are focusing too much on entire season arcs of 8-10 episodes. When in the past this kind of story could be done in a 2 part story.

They often feel dragged out and filled with so much fluff just to make the story track to a full season. Rather than the serialised single self contained stories that we used to tune in for.

You could honestly watch episode 1 and 2 then watch the last one and you wouldn't have missed much.

Where as any old Trek season you could watch any episode and know that that story would be done by the end of the episode.this is not treally a credible continuation of the show at all. Its trying too hard to be fanwanky and getting it so so wrong.

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Serialisation is just what happens now on streaming services. It doesn’t matter which universe we’re in and whether it’s a new one or a well established one like Star Trek. You’re just not going to get a season full of stand-alone episodes. The nearest you might get in the forthcoming SNW series is an arc that is nearer the foreground in some episodes than others, and then only if they’re being uber-traditional and resisting the logic of streaming services which strongly favours binge-watching (even shows that are premiered weekly, because they remain on the service indefinitely afterwards).

The vast majority of TNG episodes have an ‘A’ plot and a ‘B’ plot. Even the stories that are remembered for being action-heavy are actually quite well diluted with introspective sub-plotting (so in “The Enemy” for example, Picard facing off against Tomalak in orbit over Galorndon Core is balanced by Geordi riffing off Enemy Mine on the surface with a crashed Romulan scout). The touchy-feely introspection in Picard really is nothing new. Nor is variation in the pace of the storytelling.

It seems you don’t know what “fanwank” means - by definition it isn’t anything new or challenging. It’s mindless porn, designed to appeal to the basic cravings of unimaginative fans who demand the same old egg and chips week in, week out. It’s exactly why fan-made episodes of TOS are almost universally awful (with the possible exception of Star Trek Continues, which manages to steer just far enough away from tribute act territory, some of the time at least, to make it possible to simply enjoy the detailed recreation of the look and feel of the original despite the derivative plots and the not-in-game-footage acting). Whether you like Picard or not, it absolutely isn’t fanwank in any shape or form.

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exactly, and that is my problem with stuff like Boba Fett. Instead of saying "we need to tell this story/adventure/part of his life and it needs to take 3 episodes" and then move onto the next chapter/natural story progression, they take one little thread and needlessly pad it out to (I am not going to say a season because 10 episodes isn't a season) 8-10 episodes, finding rubbish to pad it out rather than doing a quality few episodes and focusing on a new story.

Working my way through Dial the Gate over the last couple of months has really made me appreciate how blessed we were with Stargate and how rare the writing was. Somebody needs to make a one-off documentary for the next Star Wars/Star Trek/Marvel season and have two rooms of writers with cameras in recording everything. One room with the normal peeps in, showing their thought process and the drivel they come up with and a second room with a proper team of skilled writers in from either something like Stargate or DS9, see what they come up with story wise and how it differs in richness and episodic length. There is a clear class divide in old school Star Trek and the creative team behind it and the new stuff and it isn't going to get any better. Every time I see Alex Kurtzman and Akiva Goldsman attached to something I cringe. If you watch the DS9 documentary What We Left Behind you will see what proper writing is all about.



so you are happy with what they have done with Q this season and don't feel they could have made more of it or the season would have been better if they had spent more time with him and gone into his story a bit more and cut out something else? Like Stephen said above, there is too much to cram into the finale next week. Why is Q dying, why did he send everyone back in time and what did he hope to gain from it? That is an episode in itself at the minimum without wrapping all the other characters up and dealing with this Europa space shuttle launch. They ruin the series by dwelling on naff and trivia and not spending the time on the characters that they need to. It just baffles me. They introduce these potentially rich story lines which would go down a treat and then just throw them to one side ignoring them, laughing at the audience and slapping them in the face.

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I think it's the fact the claim to have writers who love Trek and know everything, and yet they get historical things that happened in the show wrong or 8gnore what they want to invent new things for 3xisitng characters etc. They did the same thing in Discovery by inventing a sister for Spock and totally ruining the history and design of the klingons it's just the simple things seem so hard for them.

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Exactly

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All the points you have made this evening is what my realism factor is all about. You can call it whatever you want but we are on the same wavelength.

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There is still an episode left…………..

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There’s been that many timelines and resets, who knows, or cares.

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There is still a Season left ;)