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RichardCoulter 06-03-2023 18:24
Re: Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal
 
Tonight's Panorama is about the rise in trolling/harrassment on Twitter. Since Musk bought the site he has reactivated previously banned accounts. These, along with a huge number of new accounts, are attributed to the rise in bullying etc.

He's a very strange individual. The latest is that he has two bodyguards who even go to the toilet with him and he's offering to sell the office plants to his remaining employees. It's all about money with him, even down to a potted plant!!!

pip08456 06-03-2023 18:38
Re: Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal
 
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter (Post 36147572)
Tonight's Panorama is about the rise in trolling/harrassment on Twitter. Since Musk bought the site he has reactivated previously banned accounts. These, along with a huge number of new accounts, are attributed to the rise in bullying etc.

He's a very strange individual. The latest is that he has two bodyguards who even go to the toilet with him and he's offering to sell the office plants to his remaining employees. It's all about money with him, even down to a potted plant!!!
About time the snowflakes started using the block option.

1701-e 06-03-2023 21:04
Re: Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal
 
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36147573)
About time the snowflakes started using the block option.
Maybe watch the panorama special before commenting.

Twitter is a free for all for abuse etc since the fool took over.

Damien 06-03-2023 22:14
Re: Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal
 
He needs to do something about all the bugs that have happened since he took over. Completely unreliable. It went down last week, today it's half broken because they locked themselves out of the API.

Paul 06-03-2023 22:41
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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36147580)
Maybe watch the panorama special before commenting.

Twitter is a free for all for abuse etc since the fool took over.
So as stated, use the block option, or better still, dont use twitter at all.

Chris 06-03-2023 23:02
Re: Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal
 
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Originally Posted by Paul (Post 36147595)
So as stated, use the block option, or better still, dont use twitter at all.
Twitter is so big and so globally influential now, that’s scarcely an option for many. Blocking people prevents you seeing them but does nothing to prevent them spreading things that are sometimes very poisonous and occasionally dangerous. If I’d been suitably offended by the tweets that incited a riot in Washington DC I wouldn’t have done anything to defuse them by blocking Trump or any of his hangers on.

RichardCoulter 07-03-2023 16:35
Re: Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal
 
Panorama now on the iPlayer:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001jwb5

RichardCoulter 11-03-2023 07:51
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Originally Posted by pip08456 (Post 36147573)
About time the snowflakes started using the block option.
This morning the BBC reported news that some of these new/reactivated accounts are also deliberately spreading misinformation.

Chrysalis 11-03-2023 12:20
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Seems one of the people fired has been offered their job back as they had a 9 figure payout out clause on termination.

Chris 11-03-2023 12:39
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis (Post 36147964)
Seems one of the people fired has been offered their job back as they had a 9 figure payout out clause on termination.
Haraldur Thorleifsson sold his company to Twitter and took his fee as employment and a salary, deliberately so as to pay a generous amount of tax to the Icelandic government. He said he had done well out of the Icelandic welfare state and wanted to give something back, so avoided ‘tax efficient’ vehicles like share options.

However, if he was ever fired from Twitter the total outstanding amount of the purchase price would become payable. Around $100 million I believe. For this reason his name was likely to have been on a VIP ‘do not fire’ list and in a normal, functional head office someone in HR would have been on top of all this and he never would have got fired.

Twitter, however, is highly dysfunctional and an awful lot seems to be occurring at the whim of Musk who doesn’t seem minded to listen to his own experts or do any fact checking until his actions come back to bite him on the bum. Musk has tried to claim that the issue was resolved when he explored the issues around the sacking for himself rather than believing what he was being told by other people, but as an explanation that’s poor. If he’s not getting accurate information about a sacking that would cost the company $100 million, he needs to understand exactly why that is. Is he only listening to what he wants to hear? Are people so scared of losing their own jobs they will only tell him what he wants to hear? Has he already sacked so many people that there’s nobody left with the appropriate skills or experience to advise him well?

Hugh 11-03-2023 13:46
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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...lar-dystrophy/

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Musk's controversial tweet exchange erupted after Thorleifsson tweeted nine days after losing access to his work computer, asking Musk to confirm whether or not he had been laid off. Musk responded after four hours, saying, “What work have you been doing?”

Thorleifsson told Musk that a confidentiality agreement prevented him from describing his Twitter projects, and then things seemed to become more heated when Musk immediately granted permission for Thorleifsson to openly discuss his work, then responded with two laughing emojis when Thorleifsson attempted to do that.

Thorleifsson told the BBC that shortly after this exchange, he was notified that he’d been fired, and the next day, Musk sent out a now-deleted tweet, saying of Thorleifsson, “He’s the worst, sorry.”

The next day, Musk lashed out at Thorleifsson again, tweeting, “The reality is that this guy (who is independently wealthy) did no actual work, claimed as his excuse that he had a disability that prevented him from typing, yet was simultaneously tweeting up a storm. Can’t say I have a lot of respect for that.”

Thorleifsson’s agency, Ueno, was massively successful before Twitter acquired it, completing ambitious projects for many major tech companies, from executing novelty projects like Google’s Santa Tracker to building the tools that support Apple Maps. Thorleifsson, who uses a wheelchair, told Jong-Fast that he had offers from Twitter and other tech companies for years to sell the agency, but he never seriously considered it until his muscular dystrophy started progressing, losing strength in his arms and making it harder for him to work.

Beyond becoming a recognizable talent to top tech industry heads, Thorleifsson also advocated on behalf of people with disabilities. In Iceland, Thorleifsson was named person of the year by several media outlets in 2022, BBC reported. He was recognized for his work campaigning to expand wheelchair access and his decision not to receive his Twitter payout as a lump sum but as wages that could be taxed to support Iceland’s social services.

This stellar reputation as a dedicated worker began haunting Musk, who began backpedaling on his criticism of Thorleifsson after Daniel Houghton—the former CEO of Lonely Planet, who worked directly with Thorleifsson on online content and e-commerce platforms—told Musk, “this is super disappointing to see.”

“Not only is his work ethic next level, his talent and humility are world class,” Houghton told Musk. “Exactly the kind of person you want on your team when the odds are stacked. I feel certain there’s a deep misunderstanding somewhere in here of ‘did no actual work.’”

Houghton’s tweet moved Musk to finally call Thorleifsson “to figure out what’s real vs what I was told.”

“Better to talk to people than communicate via tweet,” Musk admitted.

RichardCoulter 11-03-2023 14:31
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Musk has stated in the past that he has Aspergers (now referred to as autism).

By definition, sufferers of this condition have extremely poor social skills, which isn't conducive to the management of people or companies.

Other symptoms of Asperger's syndrome include:

- Impulsive behaviour.

- A lack of interpersonal relationship skills and instincts.

- The inability to express one's own feelings.

- A tendancy to often verbalise internal thoughts that most would keep private.

- A flat tone / speaking style that lacks pitch.

- A lack of empathy.

- Obsessions with people or specific subjects.

He would be a lot better employing someone to run and communicate about his companies on his behalf.

On Radio 4 yesterday, Musk himself was described as a troll after his behaviour towards the gentleman with Muscular Dystrophy. How on Earth is he going to be able to comply with the requirements of the forthcoming Online Safety Bill if he behaves in this fashion himself?

Whether this is deliberate or due to his own disability is neither here nor there IMO as others are suffering due to his various actions.

I'm all for disabled people being given access to and support to do any job that they are capable of doing, but not every disabled person will have tje capability to do every job by the very nature of their disability.

For something as important as internet safety & appropriate management I think that the Government should include a requirement that a fit & proper person should be required to be put in charge of interactive sites where people can post comments, so i'm going to suggest to my contact at Ofcom that they request this as part of their powers under the Online Safety Bill because we've all seen the effects of not doing so.

RichardCoulter 13-03-2023 20:04
Re: Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36147968)
Haraldur Thorleifsson sold his company to Twitter and took his fee as employment and a salary, deliberately so as to pay a generous amount of tax to the Icelandic government. He said he had done well out of the Icelandic welfare state and wanted to give something back, so avoided ‘tax efficient’ vehicles like share options.

However, if he was ever fired from Twitter the total outstanding amount of the purchase price would become payable. Around $100 million I believe. For this reason his name was likely to have been on a VIP ‘do not fire’ list and in a normal, functional head office someone in HR would have been on top of all this and he never would have got fired.

Twitter, however, is highly dysfunctional and an awful lot seems to be occurring at the whim of Musk who doesn’t seem minded to listen to his own experts or do any fact checking until his actions come back to bite him on the bum. Musk has tried to claim that the issue was resolved when he explored the issues around the sacking for himself rather than believing what he was being told by other people, but as an explanation that’s poor. If he’s not getting accurate information about a sacking that would cost the company $100 million, he needs to understand exactly why that is. Is he only listening to what he wants to hear? Are people so scared of losing their own jobs they will only tell him what he wants to hear? Has he already sacked so many people that there’s nobody left with the appropriate skills or experience to advise him well?
I've just been listening to this Chris, it basically confirms everything that you said. The piece starts at about 18:30 if you want to listen to it:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001jt6z

Jaymoss 29-04-2023 18:19
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Musk has just announced they are going to start letting creators charge to read their articles. I will never pay a penny for anything on Twitter

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Rolling out next month, this platform will allow media publishers to charge users on a per article basis with one click.

This enables users who would not sign up for a monthly subscription to pay a higher per article price for when they want to read an occasional article.

Should be a major win-win for both media orgs & the public.

Sirius 29-04-2023 18:54
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Originally Posted by Jaymoss (Post 36150791)
Musk has just announced they are going to start letting creators charge to read their articles. I will never pay a penny for anything on Twitter
So if this happens in any large way do we think it will have any impact at all on how many people use Twatter, what are the options as a replacement to twatter

Just to add i think you will see a lot of, "i am not using Twatter any more" but in reality nothing will change in the size of the user base


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