Originally Posted by Phunkenstein (Post 36072651)

As mentioned in the ‘Changes’ thread by ScottishSteve...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...adcast-channel

The BBC are betraying the streaming orthodoxy and bringing BBC3 back as a linear channel.

HEATHENS!

Originally Posted by gimpymoo (Post 36072658)

Considering BBC3 is aimed at a younger audience, younger audiences do not think "ooh, must be sat infront of the TV at 8pm"... That change has already happened. They do not even "record", they just catch it on iPlayer.

Why bring it back as a linear channel?

Some of the younger generation do not even know that TV comes through an aerial, they think it comes from wifi.

I would suggest it is more to justify the TV licence to the younger generation...

"Oh look, we bought this back... aren't we great"

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36072660)

A lot of people contributing to this thread just don’t get it. Most people I speak to tell me that their kids don’t watch the scheduled channels, and most friends my age watch more VOD than those channels.

We see it with our eyes, we hear it with our ears, but some still do not get it. I don’t know if they ever will until these channels close down, as inevitably they will.

The content will be there, the channel owners will be there, but all their stuff will be VOD. No-one in the future is going to want their lives dictated by scheduled television.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36072664)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...adcast-channel



Oh look, actual paid research, as opposed to the wishful thinking of some bored old geezer on the internet.

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36072665)

What you could do of course is record TV programmes to watch when you want. Then you aren't at risk of buffering/network issues. Better PQ too. Sneaky eh? ;)

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36072668)

Funny how the Culture Minister is set on becomes "mooting an idea" within a mere few lines.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36072672)

No it's your interpretation of what you think the Government will do in six years time. There's no manifesto commitment, no proposed legislation. Nothing but your hopes and dreams.

The 2025 broadband commitment is getting watered down so much the networks, particularly in rural areas, will not be up to it.

Then you're goosed until 2037. Better get shifting those goalposts again OB.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36072673)

"Moot"

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36072676)

"could be" is not "will be"

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36072678)

Or as everyone else calls it, correct use of language.

You could be tall, handsome, and attractive to women, but you not necessarily will be... ;)

Originally Posted by gimpymoo (Post 36072658)

Considering BBC3 is aimed at a younger audience, younger audiences do not think "ooh, must be sat infront of the TV at 8pm"... That change has already happened. They do not even "record", they just catch it on iPlayer.

Why bring it back as a linear channel?

Some of the younger generation do not even know that TV comes through an aerial, they think it comes from wifi.

I would suggest it is more to justify the TV licence to the younger generation...

"Oh look, we bought this back... aren't we great"

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36072674)

No, 2027 is what he said. The Beeb confirmed a while ago that it was planning not to be using the existing transmitter system after the next licence fee review. The Culture Minister is saying he’s looking to abolish the licence fee from 2027.

As you always express a contrary view, I guess I must be on the right lines. You have nothing to back up your view, as usual.

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You need to read the article. He’s been mooting at doing this for sometime! It is only the broadband rollout that seems to be holding him back.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36072676)

I did, in the Times.

"could be" is not "will be", and "allow subscription funding of the BBC to be considered" is not "will be", no matter how much you try to spin it...

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/t...band-2c88wx9h5

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36072687)

Can you source the BBC saying they will not use the existing transmitter network after 2027?

Also any OFCOM or DCMS consultation on future use of the spectrum, any proposed auctioning off of said spectrum or anything indicative of your claim being true?

Conscious of the fact you often selectively interpret these things I'd be grateful for a look myself.

Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36072699)

I did provide a link at the time. About 18 months ago, if I remember correctly.

Originally Posted by Chris (Post 36072703)

As per, you trumped up a piece of off-the-cuff speculation into hard policy, if I remember correctly.

Link, or it’s not happening.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36072707)

I eagerly await the link to this silver bullet.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36072711)

I’m afraid I will have to leave that to you. I’m not trawling through thousands of posts just to please you, given that nothing would convince you anyway.

If you want to waste your evenings looking up stuff, knock yourself out.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36072699)

I did provide a link at the time. About 18 months ago, if I remember correctly.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36021674)

The BBC is planning for that eventuality - I mentioned this and provided my source some months ago. But of course, that doesn't suit your argument, so you ignore it. So, dream on, jfman, dream on.

Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36021703)

Good friend of mine (known him since ‘94, worked with him twice in that time period) is a Network Technical Architect with the BBC (deeply involved in planning for the medium and long-term future for the BBC networks and transmission capabilities) disagrees with you...

He is currently involved (a small part if his job) in replacing 128Kb ISDN links (used for the Outside Broadcasting voice links) from football stadiums with 5G links - the ISDN links have been in place since the early 80s. The BBC sweats its assets, and doesn’t replace stuff because something "shiny" comes on stream.

The BBC put an options paper together, one of those options was no DTT, but that was in the "very unlikely" category...

Originally Posted by chris (Post 36072664)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/20...adcast-channel



oh look, actual paid research, as opposed to the wishful thinking of some bored old geezer on the internet.

Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36072685)

What's an aerial? ;)

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36072718)

https://www.gov.uk/government/consul...tion-questions

Interestingly, despite this supposed done deal and the imminent demise of DTT in 2027, there's actually a public consultation on the future of DTT with an option of extending current licences to 2034.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36072748)

Hugh I'm left to only assume that the UK Government publication is incorrect, despite being published in December 2020, in that they too must have missed the document/link/publication to which Old Boy referred to 18 months ago.

Now if only he could provide a link he could send it to the UK Government department responsible and the appropriate regulator OFCOM for they are clearly party to a widespread and ongoing deception of the British public by pretending broadcast television will continue in some form past 2027 on digital terrestrial.

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36072748)

Hugh I'm left to only assume that the UK Government publication is incorrect, despite being published in December 2020, in that they too must have missed the document/link/publication to which Old Boy referred to 18 months ago.

Now if only he could provide a link he could send it to the UK Government department responsible and the appropriate regulator OFCOM for they are clearly party to a widespread and ongoing deception of the British public by pretending broadcast television will continue in some form past 2027 on digital terrestrial.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36072795)

I see no contradiction, jfman. The BBC document I was referring to talked about the BBC planning for internet only broadcasting by the mid-2030s. Hugh’s post seems to confirm that position.

Unless the government changes it’s position on this, I fully expect the 2027 review of the licence fee to require a move to a subscription model within the ensuing period.