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TheDaddy 11-12-2022 13:33
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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 36141607)
Elon posted graphical data himself showing hate speech has gone down, not up since he took over, he’s aggressively gone after child sexual abuse content, given a claim made in one of the Twitter files release that senior executives under old regime, put dealing with it on the back burner, which in my eyes, such ignorance equals just as complicit, = is a crime.
Gone aggressively after child sexual absue content by reducing the team combating it to one...

1andrew1 11-12-2022 13:55
Re: [Updated] Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal back on
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36141609)
What do people want to actually happen as a result of the 'Twitter files'? So far the leaks show the moderation decisions were made by Twitter staff and were not forced to do so by the Government, the Government and the Biden campaign complained about things but the former didn't use their power to force things down and the latter didn't have the power.

So is the complaint that the Government didn't step in to put restrictions on the ability what Twitter can allow or refuse? And is telling a private company that they must permit certain content actually breaking the first amendment? After all forced speech isn't free speech.
It's a very good question.

I think it's all largely noise with politicians seeking an organisation to blame and to galvanise their supporters. Twitter is a good lightning rod for their complaints given the nature of the site. Perhaps some hope that if there's a lot of whingeing from their side then Twitter may treat them more generously.

At the end of the day, Twitter's main weakness is its lack of profitability. But cutting costs too much can lead to illegal activities and increasing revenue needs to be handled carefully as the Blue Tick debate demonstrates.

Ramrod 11-12-2022 21:54
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Musk has demonstrated and proved that most/all of those tweets are bots. I wonder who could be controlling that?

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36141612)
Gone aggressively after child sexual absue content by reducing the team combating it to one...
erm, no. That's pretty much what it was when he took over.

Hugh 11-12-2022 22:00
Re: [Updated] Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal back on
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36141632)
Musk has demonstrated and proved that most/all of those tweets are bots. I wonder who could be controlling that?

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Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
Gone aggressively after child sexual absue content by reducing the team combating it to one...
erm, no. That's pretty much what it was when he took over.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/petersu...h=51004fd1131e

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Even as Elon Musk has said that removing child sexual exploitation content from Twitter was "Priority #1," the teams charged with monitoring for, and subsequently removing such content have been reduced considerably since the tech entrepreneur took control of the social media platform. Bloomberg reported last month that there are now fewer than 10 people whose job it is to track such content – down from 20 at the start of the year.
https://www.businessinsider.com/just...2-11?r=US&IR=T

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Only one Twitter employee is left on a team dedicated to removing child sexual abuse material across Japan and the Asia-Pacific region, Wired reported.

Twitter previously employed at least four employees focused on child safety in APAC, Wired found on LinkedIn. The employees were based in Singapore, Twitter's Asian headquarters, but publicly said three left Twitter in November.

ianch99 11-12-2022 22:37
Re: [Updated] Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal back on
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36141632)
Musk has demonstrated and proved that most/all of those tweets are bots. I wonder who could be controlling that?
Total rubbish. "All the racist/homophobic/etc. tweets are bots" is so laughable, I am surprised you were able to type this .. or maybe it was a bot? :rolleyes:

Ramrod 12-12-2022 11:35
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36141635)
Total rubbish.
I'm simply telling you the info that's coming out of twitter. What's your source?

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Fair enough, he probably has staffing issues in Asia. Nevertheless he's removed tens of thousands of pedo accounts and has stated his aim is to eradicate that kind of thing on twitter......which is a big improvement on whats been going on up till now.

1andrew1 12-12-2022 11:36
Re: [Updated] Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal back on
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod (Post 36141653)
I'm simply telling you the info that's coming out of twitter. What's your source?
If you could provide the links I'm sure Ian would be falling over himself to agree with you.

Damien 12-12-2022 11:46
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Elon Musk booed when brought on stage at a Chappelle concert: https://twitter.com/CleoPat48937885/...14514232938497

I don't know why he wants to lean into the celebrity thing.

1andrew1 12-12-2022 11:52
Re: [Updated] Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal back on
 
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36141658)
Elon Musk booed when brought on stage at a Chappelle concert: https://twitter.com/CleoPat48937885/...14514232938497

I don't know why he wants to lean into the celebrity thing.
I think Musk bought Twitter for the same reasons that people at one time bought newspaper publishers - to demonstrate they're an important part of society.

Pierre 12-12-2022 12:07
Re: [Updated] Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal back on
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36141660)
I think Musk bought Twitter for the same reasons that people at one time bought newspaper publishers - to demonstrate they're an important part of society.
His profile was already high, he didn't need to buy Twitter for that.

It's clear that Twitter was run by, shall we say, left leaning people, and that they summarily banned / shadow banned mainly right leaning people even though they were on the record for saying they didn't do that.

Twitter were also quite happy for hate speech and death threats against the likes of JK Rowling to go on, on a daily basis.

I think what Elon is doing is great, and the fact that he's upsetting lots of people (like Ian) whilst doing it, so much the better.

ianch99 12-12-2022 12:12
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36141663)
His profile was already high, he didn't need to buy Twitter for that.

It's clear that Twitter was run by, shall we say, left leaning people, and that they summarily banned / shadow banned mainly right leaning people even though they were on the record for saying they didn't do that.

Twitter were also quite happy for hate speech and death threats against the likes of JK Rowling to go on, on a daily basis.

I think what Elon is doing is great, and the fact that he's upsetting lots of people (like Ian) whilst doing it, so much the better.
What a nice man you are :)

Here's a reality check for you:

Twitter admits bias in algorithm for rightwing politicians and news outlets

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Twitter has admitted it amplifies more tweets from rightwing politicians and news outlets than content from leftwing sources.

The social media platform examined tweets from elected officials in seven countries – the UK, US, Canada, France, Germany, Spain and Japan. It also studied whether political content from news organisations was amplified on Twitter, focusing primarily on US news sources such as Fox News, the New York Times and BuzzFeed.

The study compared Twitter’s “Home” timeline – the default way its 200 million users are served tweets, in which an algorithm tailors what users see – with the traditional chronological timeline where the most recent tweets are ranked first.

The research found that in six out of seven countries, apart from Germany, tweets from rightwing politicians received more amplification from the algorithm than those from the left; right-leaning news organisations were more amplified than those on the left; and generally politicians’ tweets were more amplified by an algorithmic timeline than by the chronological timeline.

1andrew1 12-12-2022 12:13
Re: [Updated] Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal back on
 
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Originally Posted by Pierre (Post 36141663)
His profile was already high, he didn't need to buy Twitter for that.

It's clear that Twitter was run by, shall we say, left leaning people, and that they summarily banned / shadow banned mainly right leaning people even though they were on the record for saying they didn't do that.

Twitter were also quite happy for hate speech and death threats against the likes of JK Rowling to go on, on a daily basis.

I think what Elon is doing is great, and the fact that he's upsetting lots of people (like Ian) whilst doing it, so much the better.
I think owning Twitter and being part of the media world heightens his profile and maintains his household name.

ianch99 12-12-2022 12:31
Re: [Updated] Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal back on
 
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36141660)
I think Musk bought Twitter for the same reasons that people at one time bought newspaper publishers - to demonstrate they're an important part of society.

Nah, as Damien's post proves, he is just an egotistical narcissist. That's it. He'll get bored soon.

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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36141658)
Elon Musk booed when brought on stage at a Chappelle concert: https://twitter.com/CleoPat48937885/...14514232938497

I don't know why he wants to lean into the celebrity thing.
This is funny, the account that posted about Elon's embarrassment has now been removed :)

1andrew1 12-12-2022 12:40
Re: [Updated] Elon Musk $44 Billion Twitter deal back on
 
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Originally Posted by ianch99 (Post 36141667)
Nah, as Damien's post proves, he is just an egotistical narcissist. That's it. He'll get bored soon.
I suspect we're saying broadly the same thing but with different words. ;)

Damien 12-12-2022 12:50
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Yeah, Twitter seems to have terminated the account.


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