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Like they did with pubs ;)

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And if you’re wrong you’ve lost children two weeks at school in a period that they’ve already lost too much. Inconveniencing working parents that can’t get, or afford, childcare. Potentially putting their jobs at risk.

Gambling with vulnerable kids lives that are in abusive households.

Seems you’re happy to take those risks?

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It's not about anyone being happy to take risks, it's about risk assessment and mitigation.

Which will cause most problems - lockdown/schools closing, or the NHS being overwhelmed, NHS staff burn-out and sickness (which adds to the NHS issues), the unknown impact of Long Covid on people and the NHS, the heartbreak of families when a relative dies from COVID without any family member with them?

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Not sure many kids die at the Easter holidays, summer holidays, etc.

There’s enough scientific data that quantifies the impact of education settings on R. I’d be absolutely delighted to see schools close for a period to get infections down.

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Never quite got the reasoning for "vulnerable" kids to continue attending school, compared to being at home outside of school hours and in normal school holiday times. What is meant to be the difference?

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It’s essentially a ruse from right wing libertarian types that if you told them you wanted to raise income tax a fraction of a penny to fund increased after school, summer school, free school meals and social services would say no and wax lyrical about personal responsibility.

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If it's really that essential then let's be a bit creative - extend the term into the summer by a couple of weeks, reduce Easter holidays, etc.

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You’re right, I meant to put include ‘in a set period of time/infections per week’. Apologies for that!

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It’s not essential - the school year is based on an agricultural calendar. Other countries have significantly less days in their school year with no real evidence our education system is superior/inferior to them.

When we inevitably accept there will be no exams that saves weeks for the years those apply to.

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Well, close the schools and what I have put will happen, don’t close and what you list may happen.

They don’t know yet.

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Glad we can add “Social Work” to your repertoire of skills.

There is plenty of information on why vulnerable children not being at school is a bad thing, not so much the other way round though?

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That would work for, I absolutely would support that, good luck getting that past the unions though.

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Definitely your “Opinion”. And you’re welcome to it, I thoroughly disagree.

Both my kids are not at exam age, and missed out on a 3rd of their school year and it definitely impacted the youngest.

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Such as? And compared to school holidays?
In normal times, a major problem outside of school hours, is them actually mixing with other kids.

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https://www.gov.uk/government/news/c...ost-vulnerable

And many many more, knock yourself out

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But the vaccinations are protecting the vulnerable. That is the big picture. It takes quite a few weeks for these infections of the young to pass down through the generations. By which time, the vulnerable will be protected via their inoculations.

We have already discussed the benefit of the virus spreading through the healthy population. We need simply to be in a position where these two things converge to eliminate the impact of the virus.

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So nothing in relation to before the first school shutdown of last year(2020)?
When was "vulnerable" only defined as being in a care home?
It's another case of trying to justify something, after the initial decision.
How are children who are less likely to be controllable, going to be able to behave in a safe manner?

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That’s one hell of an assumption, jfman! Where’s your evidence for such a wild statement? Your posts are more off the wall than before these days, and that’s saying something!

At present, nobody knows the lifespan of a Covid vaccination, but six months is pretty extreme, even for you.

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I agree with where Pierre is coming from, but I think the problem is with knowing who the people who have had this infection without knowing it (or not reporting it) actually are.

I think we all need to appreciate that the emergency measures are designed to ensure that the hospitals are not overwhelmed. Once we have achieved that, the measures can be lifted. We are not looking at a total elimination of the virus.