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jfman 15-06-2021 23:23
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Oops Michelle Dewberry fell for the old “Mike Hunt” emailing/texting in.

Hugh 16-06-2021 09:04
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 36083367)
Laurence Fox's stand against woke-ism is creditable.
Lozza Fox’s stand for free publicity is creditable in his ever-increasing frantic search for relevance - for someone whose identity is based around his being starved of a platform, Fox does seem to be everywhere… :D

Carth 16-06-2021 09:40
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I watched it briefly this morning, just to see what the fuss was all about.

First impression . . . why does it look like 4:3 at 640 x 480 resolution?

Then, after 5 minutes juggling with the volume control in order to hear both sides of a conversation, I turned it and the TV off.

Typical B movie quality, I'd guess the adverts would be better in quality and content but I wasn't hanging around to find out. :D

early days I guess

jonbxx 16-06-2021 09:42
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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36083294)
It's the natural evolution of capitalism unfortunately. The two things you can do to effect change are either withhold your time or your money.

The former between falling union memberships, mortgages and giving folk a stake in/reliance upon (delete as preferable) the economy means everyone wants a wage. That leaves option two.

Now that major companies are under immense pressure in the social media era to be "seen" to do the right thing there's a desperation to react to bad PR. Even an extremely marginal drop in sales - in particular in covid times - is undesirable.

On the other side of the fence someone did try to encourage folk to turn over during the ads in the England game because of the "knee". Correctly concluding advertisers would be unhappy. The only minor problem was the Croatia game was on BBC but inevitably ITV will have a game and it's one way to leverage opinion.

Nobody wants bad PR - it's why the bookies plant stories about how much they are likely to lose if X happens. Free advertising and in a good light.
Companie aren't stupid. Marketing is expensive so you want to be sure you are getting the best possible impact for your budget. Pulling advertising from GB News is a marketing decision which could be based on two things;
  1. Your core customer base and potential new customers are not likely to watch GB News - if so advertising there is a waste of money
  2. There is a potential that what GB News stands for might rub off on your brand. You might lose customers who like GB News (cancel culture anyone?) but see point 1 - if the venn diagram of people who like fruit flavoured swedish ciders and GB news is pretty much two separate circles then you don't lose much by pulling adverts

Damien 16-06-2021 11:22
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Not a massive fan of media boycotts personally. I suspect companies pay too much attention to a very small but vocal group of people. It doesn't matter if it's 'Stop Funding Hate' putting pressure on companies to avoid GB News or if it's people not buying French wine/cheese/cars because Macron was mean. No one really knows it's happening let alone cares.

But I guess consumers are free to make purchasing decisions based on values/politics and companies are certainly going to be cautious of what associations they make.

Carth 16-06-2021 12:03
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Originally Posted by Damien (Post 36083426)
Not a massive fan of media boycotts personally. I suspect companies pay too much attention to a very small but vocal group of people. It doesn't matter if it's 'Stop Funding Hate' putting pressure on companies to avoid GB News or if it's people not buying French wine/cheese/cars because Macron was mean. No one really knows it's happening let alone cares.

But I guess consumers are free to make purchasing decisions based on values/politics and companies are certainly going to be cautious of what associations they make.
So true, the vast majority don't give a monkey's and will go for the cheapest and readiest available. Marketing people have to earn a living though, and will produce charts, data, and analysis to show what they want to push.

example: 70% of people asked would never buy a product tested on animals . . . in the small writing below that 'in a survey of 10 people'

Mr K 16-06-2021 12:05
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Never used IKEA or drunk grolsh/fruity cider. Might give
them a go now! They seem like nice people ;)

Pierre 16-06-2021 12:53
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36083403)
Lozza Fox’s stand for free publicity is creditable in his ever-increasing frantic search for relevance - for someone whose identity is based around his being starved of a platform, Fox does seem to be everywhere… :D
Well as seen as he has been cancelled out of is former acting career for speaking his own held views (which are shared by many others), he has to do something. So why not fight against the culture that cancelled him?

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Originally Posted by jonbxx (Post 36083410)
Companie aren't stupid. Marketing is expensive so you want to be sure you are getting the best possible impact for your budget. Pulling advertising from GB News is a marketing decision which could be based on two things;
  1. Your core customer base and potential new customers are not likely to watch GB News - if so advertising there is a waste of money
  2. There is a potential that what GB News stands for might rub off on your brand. You might lose customers who like GB News (cancel culture anyone?) but see point 1 - if the venn diagram of people who like fruit flavoured swedish ciders and GB news is pretty much two separate circles then you don't lose much by pulling adverts
Trust me if GB news start pulling in numbers of viewers, advertisers will be more than happy to reach the audience.

Hugh 16-06-2021 13:14
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Any examples of where he was "cancelled out of is former acting career for speaking his own held views", please?

I can't find any evidence where he was turned down for jobs because of his views - it would appear that someone he appeared on a TV series with didn't want to associate with him, and his agent decided not to work with him, but besides that, can't find anything...

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/...culture-642794
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In text messages shared by Fox, Front told the actor politely that while she wishes him and his sons well, his insistence in using #AllLivesMatter over #BlackLivesMatter had “tipped [her] over the edge” and that she was “uncomfortable about the company you’re keeping”.

Fox tweeted the exchange and wrote: “This is the most painful cancellation I have had yet. From someone I spent 10 happy years working with, many lovely family dinners and lots and lots of laughs. Someone I thought was a friend.”

The actor has since apologised for making “a private conversation public just to make a point”, and Front has accepted the apology – but screenshots last forever.
The reason his agent may have dropped him may have been the fact he called people who disagreed with him "paedophiles"...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hone-call.html
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The controversial Lewis star said on Twitter that his agent 'let me go on the phone' in a move which reaffirmed 'exactly why I am doing what I’m doing'.

Last month, Fox was embroiled in bitter Twitter spats with a number of people who called him a 'racist'. He replied making unsubstantiated claims that they were 'paedophiles'. He later deleted the tweets.
Sounds like someone is trying to make a career out of something that didn't actually happen, just stoking up outrage to get money and publicity...

TheDaddy 16-06-2021 13:31
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36083442)
Any examples of where he was "cancelled out of is former acting career for speaking his own held views", please?

I can't find any evidence where he was turned down for jobs because of his views - it would appear that someone he appeared on a TV series with didn't want to associate with him, and his agent decided not to work with him, but besides that, can't find anything...

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/...culture-642794

The reason his agent may have dropped him may have been the fact he called people who disagreed with him "paedophiles"...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hone-call.html

Sounds like someone is trying to make a career out of something that didn't actually happen, just stoking up outrage to get money and publicity...
He sounds like a rather unpleasant snowflake to me

Carth 16-06-2021 13:44
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Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 36083447)
He sounds like a rather unpleasant snowflake to me

There's been a few in the media spotlight recently ;)

Pierre 16-06-2021 14:06
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36083442)
Any examples of where he was "cancelled out of is former acting career for speaking his own held views", please?

I can't find any evidence where he was turned down for jobs because of his views - it would appear that someone he appeared on a TV series with didn't want to associate with him, and his agent decided not to work with him, but besides that, can't find anything...

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/...culture-642794

The reason his agent may have dropped him may have been the fact he called people who disagreed with him "paedophiles"...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hone-call.html

Sounds like someone is trying to make a career out of something that didn't actually happen, just stoking up outrage to get money and publicity...
Well in tweets he was called a disgrace by “equity” and when equity apologised several of their race equality committee resigned.

https://news.sky.com/story/laurence-...grace-11957291

Bear in mind all he had said as this point was that he didn’t think the U.K. was racist towards Meghan.

And yes he was dropped by his agency, and I would suspect he’ll probably never be offered an acting job again.

Now post this incident I would agree he has double downed on everything and said several questionable things, and btw I am no fan of his and never actually seen him in anything.

But I do not believe this is how he wanted his future to pan out, I’m sure he would have been quite happy to stay as actor, he accepted an invitation to go on Question time, he was asked his opinion, he gave it. He was accused of being a white privileged male, which he is and he agreed, but I don’t see why that means he can’t have an opinion.

He was subsequently branded a racist, no evidence of that on QT, the Twitter sphere went into meltdown and he was toxic.

All because he had a valid opinion and expressed it, but if you think that’s all fine and that’s the kind of world you want to live in, you’re welcome to it

Hugh 16-06-2021 18:31
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That’s an unwarranted assumption, not supported by anything I’ve posted, but if you think that’s all fine and that’s the kind of thing you want to post, you’re welcome to do so…

Pierre 16-06-2021 20:27
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36083491)
That’s an unwarranted assumption, not supported by anything I’ve posted, but if you think that’s all fine and that’s the kind of thing you want to post, you’re welcome to do so…
:tu:

Mick 16-06-2021 21:09
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Originally Posted by Hugh (Post 36083491)
That’s an unwarranted assumption, not supported by anything I’ve posted, but if you think that’s all fine and that’s the kind of thing you want to post, you’re welcome to do so…
Problem is, you used a woke term to describe the channel before you had even seen any content on it, so the assumption is absolutely warranted.

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Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 36083431)
Never used IKEA or drunk grolsh/fruity cider. Might give
them a go now! They seem like nice people ;)
Yeah, they seem really nice, if you like spying on your staff that is...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57482168

You always seem to side with the nasty folk, undemocratic folk. But then again, that's just how narrowmindedness works with your losing side doesn't it? :rolleyes:


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